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Chivalry Ain't Dead (Sarah, Hillary, the PUMAs and Obama)
Rome NY Sucks ^ | September 05, 2008

Posted on 09/05/2008 8:07:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I think the PUMAs are the most objective political presence in this election cycle. Sure, they supported Hillary Clinton, but they were able to break out of party shackles and objectively see that Obama points their party in the wrong direction.

One interesting observation is their surprise at how Democratic party leaders allowed Hillary to be maligned while the Republican party stood by Sarah Palin, even in her darkest hour. Some of those attacks against Hillary were harsh and frequently sexist. Such as Obama's comment about Hillary and "periodic" rage.

(VIDEO AT LINK)

Of course, one can argue that this is not the same thing, but I happen to believe the Republicans, or more correctly, conservatives still believe a little bit more in chivalry. Much has been made of Christianity and its demands that women submit to their husbands, but not much is made of the fact that men are told that their families are more important than themselves.

In a liberal world, men and women are equal. Boys should play house and girls should play with trucks. Actually, they should probably be making their own compost pile, but I digress. Obama has turned to saying that Sarah is tough enough to be treated like a man.

Of course, she is not treated like a man. Obama is a weekend parent, but Palin is criticized for having a child and daring to run for president. She is cited for her appearance. Anderson Cooper talked about her manicured nails last night.

There is also the "style over substance" issue. Because Palin is young and attractive, her experience is judged more harshly as a vice presidential candidate than the Democratic presidential candidate. The claim is that she was picked for shallow reasons. Obama was given a speaking position in 2004 because he was one of a very few Democrats poised to win a toss-up seat. A seat he won, to a great extent, because his Republican opponent dropped out months before the election. Not exactly the qualification for a president.

I don't think most Democrats hate women. I do think that the liberal wing of the party has decided to "look past" gender in such a way that they have no qualms about using deeply personal sexist attacks because they "work." Well, in the Republican party, men are men and women are women. And our men love our women.


TOPICS: Alaska; Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: democrats; election; electionpresident; elections; hillary; mccainpalin; obama; palin; puma
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IMO, one of the biggest mistakes Obama made was not picking Hillary as his VP. I'm glad he's not secure enough to have made that leap. Despite what the media is trying to claim, I think John McCain's pick of Sarah Palin will win him the majority of the PUMAs this November.
1 posted on 09/05/2008 8:07:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

> one of the biggest mistakes Obama made was not picking Hillary as his VP.

Michelle would not hear of it!


2 posted on 09/05/2008 8:10:55 PM PDT by XEHRpa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is a PUMA?


3 posted on 09/05/2008 8:13:45 PM PDT by jwalburg (I live in the 57th state.)
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To: XEHRpa

Flipping thru channels a few min ago, on CNN I stopped to hear a woman telling Anderson that the dems had to get people to attack Sarah Palin on her beliefs on abortion, immigration and other issues that would show she was out of the mainstream of American women. She said they should get interviews to conflict with her on these issues, so pass this on to until the McCain Camp gets the info and knows how to reject certain far left interviews for Palin alone.


4 posted on 09/05/2008 8:14:38 PM PDT by Kackikat ( Without National Security all other issues are mute points; chaos ensues.))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What will they do when Obama sends out the hildabest to try to save him from Sarah?


5 posted on 09/05/2008 8:16:52 PM PDT by screaminsunshine
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To: jwalburg

It means “Party Unity My Ass” and refers to the women who were backing Hillary. (I had to ask, too)


6 posted on 09/05/2008 8:17:00 PM PDT by madison10 (McCain/Pallin 2008)
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To: Kackikat

Newsflash...She is going to get the male democrats..Will not even need the girls.


7 posted on 09/05/2008 8:18:30 PM PDT by screaminsunshine
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To: jwalburg

“What is a PUMA?”

PUMA stands for “Party Unity My Ass!” In other words, Hillary supporters who will not tow the party line and support Obama just because he’s a Dem.


8 posted on 09/05/2008 8:18:58 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think the PUMAs are the most objective political presence in this election cycle.

Wellwe need every vote we can get but Hillary supporters are just as pathetic as Obama supporters --Hillary should be in a cell with Bubba in the other

These so called PUMAs are completely uniformed as to the real Hillary

Just wish they were voting for McCain (if they really turn out ) for the right reason not because they are po-ed at Obama
9 posted on 09/05/2008 8:19:16 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

IMO, one of the biggest mistakes Obama made was not picking Hillary as his VP. I’m glad he’s not secure enough to have made that leap. Despite what the media is trying to claim, I think John McCain’s pick of Sarah Palin will win him the majority of the PUMAs this November.

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I’ll go even further. Obama and Hillary could have had their “Dream ticket”, with HER at the top.

All Obama would have to do, is realize that:

1) he can’t win without women
2) he and Hillary were close in votes cast
3) he has NO executive experience
4) by letting Hillary go first, he could learn from her, and not be bothered by Bill, the way he would if Hillary were the VP.

All Obama needed was a moment of humility and clarity.

Hello PUMAs!!! We love justice as much as you do!

Welcome to the par-tay!


10 posted on 09/05/2008 8:21:02 PM PDT by ROTB (Our Constitution [is] for a [Christian] people. It is wholly inadequate [for] any other. -John Adams)
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“There is also the “style over substance” issue. Because Palin is young and attractive, her experience is judged more harshly as a vice presidential candidate than the Democratic presidential candidate.”

I just LOVE how all this has boomeranged back on BHO’s camp and the MSM. BHO is a CLASSIC example of style over substance...young and attractive, etc., etc. So now, suddenly, it’s a bad thing because our side has it??? :-))))))))))))) Worse yet, in Palin’s case, she has both style AND substance. And it’s driving the other side beserk.


11 posted on 09/05/2008 8:22:30 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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Such as Obama's comment about Hillary and "periodic" rage?

Damm I missed that one..Obama dodged getting slapped down for that smart ass crack?... I starting to see why the PUMA had such a major bug up the ass on Obama

12 posted on 09/05/2008 8:25:02 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Hey Bill Maher...who's the stewardess now bitch!)
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To: jwalburg

“What is a PUMA?”

are you asking seriously? it’s a good one - a grassroots (pretty large) group formed after Hillary dropped out, by disgruntled supporters of hers - many of whom, btw, have pledged their votes to McCain now.

it stands for Party Unity My Ass. for real. :-))))))))


13 posted on 09/05/2008 8:26:36 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: jwalburg

>>>”What is a PUMA?”<<<

Hillary Clinton Supporters For John McCain:

http://www.hcsfjm.com

http://pub36.bravenet.com/forum/3009070907 (forum)

Party Unity My A$$ PAC/People United Means Action PAC:

http://blog.pumapac.org

Democrats Against Obama/Nobama ever!

http://democrats-against-obama.org

Just Say No Deal:

http://justsaynodeal.com

Take a look around these sites for a half hour or 45 minutes....(there are hundreds more linked to these, just look for links)


14 posted on 09/05/2008 8:29:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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One interesting observation is their surprise at how Democratic party leaders allowed Hillary to be maligned while the Republican party stood by Sarah Palin, even in her darkest hour. Some of those attacks against Hillary were harsh and frequently sexist. Such as Obama's comment about Hillary and "periodic" rage.

Should we all email this quote to Chris Matthews?

15 posted on 09/05/2008 8:30:32 PM PDT by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I love love love the PUMA's.

They remind me of my liberal aunt who can't even fathom why I'm conservative, even though her actual day-to-day life is pretty conservative.

I tell my aunt, either she completely misunderstands what being a conservative is all about, or else I do.
16 posted on 09/05/2008 8:30:36 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Obama Is For People Who Write US Magazine. Sarah Palin Is For People Who Read US Magazine.)
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To: screaminsunshine

Obama enlists Clinton to help counter Palin (Hussein Obomber having trouble with ‘experience’)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2075099/posts


17 posted on 09/05/2008 8:31:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: XEHRpa
one of the biggest mistakes Obama made was not picking Hillary as his VP.

An even greater mistake was not vetting Hillary in the first place. The McCain camp talks about the vetting process - making Sarah Palin answer dozens of very personal questions. If Obama vetted Hillary in the same manner, he would at least have some dirt on her if she got uppity over the next 4 years, and that will happen whether he wins or loses.
18 posted on 09/05/2008 8:33:08 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Obama Is For People Who Write US Magazine. Sarah Palin Is For People Who Read US Magazine.)
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To: uncbob
These so called PUMAs are completely uniformed as to the real Hillary

At this point, the left's screeching has beaten me down so much over the past 8 years that I don't really care about that. It's refreshing enough to see a lefty who doesn't automatically go into a McCain equals Bush equals Hitler meme.
19 posted on 09/05/2008 8:35:55 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Obama Is For People Who Write US Magazine. Sarah Palin Is For People Who Read US Magazine.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I already saw the old hag vp on Hannity. She got her orders from the borg queen to go for Obama.


20 posted on 09/05/2008 8:41:02 PM PDT by screaminsunshine
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