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Alabama Supreme Court decision is one of the morally clearest rulings of the decade
The Gospel Coalition ^ | Feb 2024 | Joe Carter

Posted on 02/28/2024 8:36:01 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

The Alabama Supreme Court decision is one of the morally clearest rulings of the decade. As it rightly asserts, unborn children are “children” and deserve appropriate legal and ethical protections. Unfortunately, many Christians—including those who consider themselves “pro-life”—are lacking in similar moral clarity.

…In December 2020, a patient at an Alabama hospital wandered into the fertility clinic through an unsecured doorway. The patient then entered the cryogenic nursery and removed several embryos. As the court notes, “The subzero temperatures at which the embryos had been stored freeze-burned the patient’s hand, causing the patient to drop the embryos on the floor, killing them.”

Several parents of these embryos sued the clinic under Alabama’s Wrongful Death of a Minor Act, a statute that allows parents of a deceased child to recover punitive damages for their child’s death.

…In summary, the theologically based view of the sanctity of life adopted by the People of Alabama encompasses the following: (1) God made every person in His image; (2) each person therefore has a value that far exceeds the ability of human beings to calculate; and (3) human life cannot be wrongfully destroyed without incurring the wrath of a holy God, who views the destruction of His image as an affront to Himself. Section 36.06 recognizes that this is true of unborn human life no less than it is of all other human life—that even before birth, all human beings bear the image of God, and their lives cannot be destroyed without effacing his glory.

(Excerpt) Read more at thegospelcoalition.org ...


TOPICS: Reference; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: ivf; prolife; scotus
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1 posted on 02/28/2024 8:36:01 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Thank you Alabama!


2 posted on 02/28/2024 8:40:19 AM PST by JayGalt
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

It’s sort of ironic watching the Alabama legislature and governor scramble to dilute the ruling.


3 posted on 02/28/2024 8:46:07 AM PST by joesbucks (It's called love-bombing. Claiming he's saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
The Alabama Supreme Court decision is one of the morally clearest rulings of the decade.

"morally clear" is an excellent way to describe it. Our post-modern, nihilist society refuses to look at where life, and human dignity, originate.

4 posted on 02/28/2024 8:47:07 AM PST by PGR88
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

From a religious/moral view, a very good commentary. Well worth the read by all Christians.


5 posted on 02/28/2024 9:02:44 AM PST by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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Fr Nix just put out an article, for one couple, 30 embryos died over all in the IVF effort to yield one happy baby.

Kind of like celebrating the kids that survive a really bad school shooting. Certainly celebrate them, but do many more died makes it a bad day.


6 posted on 02/28/2024 9:06:55 AM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It ( )
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

“Unfortunately, many Christians—including those who consider themselves “pro-life”—are lacking in similar moral clarity.”

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Oh yeah, isn’t that the truth. We have several here who claim the GOP will lose everything over this IVF and abortion.

First, when federal legislation was even mentioned, they claimed they’re the most pro-life people on the planet but that the killing of children was a state issue. Then when the states act to protect the little boys and girls, these pro-lifers-in-name-only claim it is an issue that the government should not be involved in at all and the GOP should be neutral to get more votes.

Murder should always be illegal on any and all levels. And when one states that fact, the posers go off on tangents of the legal definitions of murder, etc. Or they’ll claim that murdering children for IVF is no different than children dying in miscarriages. Or that we’re not a theocracy, as if murder is based on religion. These people are sick and have no moral clarity.

With pro-lifers like that, who needs Satan or the Democrats?


7 posted on 02/28/2024 9:11:11 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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I agree with you morally, but constitutionally murder need not be legislated on every level. Murder is a State crime and until the people forgot that the Federal Government is one of limited jurisdiction (trade, interstate commerce, military) murder of almost any type was nit a Federal crime.

Following your logic the UN should ban murder in the US and have courts to try a used murderers when Anerican DAs decline to prosecute


8 posted on 02/28/2024 9:22:31 AM PST by edwinland
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
Thank you. I looked for Fr. Nix's article and it can be found here:

IVF Kills Thirty Children For Every One That Survives

9 posted on 02/28/2024 9:23:09 AM PST by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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To: edwinland

*accused not “ a used”


10 posted on 02/28/2024 9:23:22 AM PST by edwinland
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

“The Court noted that Article I of the state’s constitution of 2022 “acknowledges, declares, and affirms that it is the public policy of this state to ensure the protection of the rights of the unborn child in all manners and measures lawful and appropriate.”

That section, titled “Sanctity of Unborn Life,” operates in this context as a constitutionally imposed canon of construction, directing courts to construe ambiguous statutes in a way that “protect[s] . . . the rights of the unborn child” equally with the rights of born children, whenever such construction is “lawful and appropriate.””


11 posted on 02/28/2024 9:50:25 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: edwinland

Thanks for validating my point previously mentioned, “And when one states that fact, the posers go off on tangents of the legal definitions of murder, etc.”


12 posted on 02/28/2024 9:59:31 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo

Incorrect. I don’t question whether abortion is murder. I note that the Federal Government does not have the authority to prohibit ordinary murder.


13 posted on 02/28/2024 1:18:00 PM PST by edwinland
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To: edwinland

“I note that the Federal Government does not have the authority to prohibit ordinary murder.”

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Which has nothing to do with whether murder should always be illegal on any and all levels.

Like I said, “ Murder should always be illegal on any and all levels. And when one states that fact, the posers go off on tangents of the legal definitions of murder, etc.”


14 posted on 02/28/2024 1:27:11 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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“I note that the Federal Government does not have the authority to prohibit ordinary murder.”

Which has nothing to do with whether murder should always be illegal on any and all levels."

I think I am misunderstanding you. I interpreted "murder should always be illegal on any and all levels" as meaning there should be a general Federal law against murder (even if not related to interstate commerce or civil rights under the 14th Amendment). Your reply suggests I got that wrong. Can you tell me what you think the Federal government should or shouldn't do with respect to laws on murder? Perhaps we don't disagree on this topic?

15 posted on 03/01/2024 7:06:07 AM PST by edwinland
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To: edwinland

My intent maybe better stated as, murder should never be legal for any human to commit or for any human to be the victim of. Moral law.

Also:

Legitimate defense of one’s life, is not murder, but rather a duty. Defending the defenseless, by coming to the aid of others’ whose life is legitimately threatened, is not murder, but rather a duty.


16 posted on 03/01/2024 8:05:55 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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My intent maybe better stated as, murder should never be legal for any human to commit or for any human to be the victim of. Moral law.

On this we agree, and we agree that abortion is murder. I was commenting on the question of whether the Federal Government could pass a law criminalizing abortion despite the fact that it does not have the authority under the US Constitution to prohibit regular murder. That authority was reserved for the States by George Washington et al.

17 posted on 03/01/2024 9:03:54 AM PST by edwinland
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To: jacknhoo

The Jurisdiction section here on Wikipedia is a decent summary of the issue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_in_United_States_law


18 posted on 03/01/2024 9:05:26 AM PST by edwinland
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“I was commenting on the question of whether the Federal Government could pass a law”

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That’s your question. I didn’t ask that question.


19 posted on 03/01/2024 10:48:42 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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You didn't ask a question. You made a statement that raised that question:

First, when federal legislation was even mentioned, they claimed they’re the most pro-life people on the planet but that the killing of children was a state issue.

SO I ask a question: do you think the Federal Government has jurisdiction in ordinary cases of murder or not?.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_in_United_States_law

20 posted on 03/02/2024 8:13:33 AM PST by edwinland
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