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Basically it is saying what I have said. Socialism attracts those who are religiously minded, but are in rebellion towards God. They want the blessings of the Torah, but not the obligations of the Torah in their personal life.

This goes for nominal Jews, nominal Christians, and secularists.

1 posted on 02/17/2024 4:57:10 PM PST by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

Well said.


2 posted on 02/17/2024 4:58:39 PM PST by Skwor
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if you can’t live up to ‘higher standards’ maybe you can force others to live up to ‘higher standards.’


3 posted on 02/17/2024 5:01:27 PM PST by posterchild
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I was shocked, and told my father so:

“Dad, it says here in your High School yearbook that you were President of the “Economic Friendship Club.” In 1936, Dad, that sounds like the name of some sort of Communist youth group! You were... A COMMUNIST?”

My father, a Jewish Republican, smiled.

“Son, Look carefully at that picture. That was a co-ed society... And Communist gals believed in free love.”


5 posted on 02/17/2024 5:07:40 PM PST by golux
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My impression was that the attraction of Jews to communism was something like Joseph in Egypt in the bible. It was a way to get ahead and around on the natives. The Egypt Joseph created was one where all the Egyptians were slaves to Pharaoh and ruled by jews. He created the first communist state.

But then the Egyptians rebelled etc

The second communist state was one created by Stalin—who also had a big jewish nomenclature.

Over time the Russians —like the Egyptians—rebelled. And like the egyptians they drove the Jews out.


6 posted on 02/17/2024 5:14:21 PM PST by ckilmer
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Indeed.


7 posted on 02/17/2024 5:21:32 PM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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Interesting—and thanks for the summary. (It’s actually inspired me to go check it out.)


8 posted on 02/17/2024 5:23:41 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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They want the blessings of the Torah, but not the obligations of the Torah in their personal life.

IMHO it goes well beyond that. For those who value education and knowledge intellectualism is an aphrodisiac. The idea that you have advanced knowledge and are part of an intellectual elite is very enticing to those who value intellect. It makes one feel unique, different (in a good way), and yes - better than others. Somewhat like being an elite athlete, but an intellectual athlete.

For very silly and indefensible reasons embracing Marxism (and thus being different than the 'uniformed less thans') is a position that has strongly attracted those who want to be thought of as 'intellectuals'. Ironically, Marxism is a philosophy rooted in a complete ignorance of the human spirit and a complete ignorance of economic principles. Nonetheless, go to almost any university campus and you will find ignorant but self-righteous and incredibly fervent followers of Marxism.

15 posted on 02/17/2024 5:47:17 PM PST by neverevergiveup
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Communist Jews believe in a "Living [Pick a Number] Commandments," that is:
You must follow the rules, in order to live . . . but they, your overseers, must have a system for violating the rules, so that they live, and reign, over you.

Life is hard, because of the ruling organizations of power, religion, and social structure(s) that violate(s) the rules.

National Socialism in Germany, Russian Socialism, and Jewish Communism|Socialism - all three with power structures - under which, you could swear that you crossed all the "T"'s and dotted all the "i"'s . . . but you lose, and, or, are punished anyway.

Because of the powerful who abuse and violate the rules.

17 posted on 02/17/2024 5:53:04 PM PST by linMcHlp
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Bfl


19 posted on 02/17/2024 5:54:29 PM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a closed mind will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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Tribal people are often communist. The closer to family, the ideas of shared resources are a no brainer. Communes are everywhere in Israel.


25 posted on 02/17/2024 6:03:10 PM PST by Theoria
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(those who are religiously minded, but are in rebellion towards God)

yep (which is why it’s hard to find people listening to Scripture)


53 posted on 02/17/2024 6:57:57 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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The majority of the founders of the modern nation of Israel were Socialists. The rest were Communists.

Israel even was Soviet-aligned until Golda Meir, then envoy to the USSR, broached the subject with Stalin about allowing any Soviet Jew who wanted to to “make Aliyah,” to leave Russia and emigrate to Israel.

Stalin’s blunt refusal to even consider her request got Mme. Meir’s dander up, and her pique was the start of the shift of the Israeli government from Soviet alignment to seeking alliance with American.


57 posted on 02/17/2024 7:06:48 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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It was more than that

Fear of pogroms and czarist excess made Marxism and even anarchism look preferable

And more reasons

It’s providential I’ve concluded

Just look at the vanguard of the elite left

100 years later

Only difference is today there’s no czar to fear

But instead behind every righty there’s a potential steely Nazi

It gets ingrained intergenerational

Like how my region derided Yankees many generations after the joys of Reconstruction


82 posted on 02/18/2024 7:30:51 AM PST by wardaddy (. A disease in the public mind)
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