Posted on 02/17/2024 4:57:10 PM PST by Jonty30
Netenyahu went a long way twoards de- socializing Israel.
Hitler was on the left, as it is defined by American politics. As I said, in Europe, there is only big government. Europeans so thoroughly despise individualism that they buried John Locked in concrete and built a metal fence around his grave so his ideas of individualism would never rise.
In Europe, it is a choice between three big government who will murder you for not complying. In America, because individualism is still a thing, he is on the left.
Again, his claim to fame about churches and family is called political posturing. To gain the support of the German people, he got churches built and supported the family. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t hardcore left, in terms of subjugating the individual to the state.
The slogan of fascism is almost exactly alike to communism, “From all to the state and from the state to all”.
He was on the left, as we know it because he was a big government, centrally controlled and a distributionist. Like everybody on the left was.
There we 2 strains of Zionism. The Ben Guerion stain was Socalist. Vladimir Zabotinsky favored private property and the free market. His ideas became the Lukid party. Lukid, and Netenyahu in particular, went a long way twoards de- socializing Israel.
“ Those photos and videos showed how much the German people loved him. ”
Hitler was an immensely evil human .
He was very good at propaganda and playing the victim card.
No doubt some brainwashed Germans liked him and the propagandists took full advantage .
For me to even have the debate the merits of Hitler in 2024 is ludicrous .
You give a bad name to conservatives .
Liberals will screenshot your comments and try to label us all as being like you.
That means everything is left wing in Europe. Fascism is most definitely a derivative of socialism; Mussolini always preached “social justice” and redistribution.
Opus?
Hitler was a left winger. The parallels between himself and Stalin are too numerous to count offhand.
But the Weimar Republic guys promoting child prostitution, pornography, transgenderism, and sodomy were the heroes.
He was very good at propaganda and playing the victim card.
Sure, which is why Germans in later years spoke so fondly of him.
No doubt some brainwashed Germans liked him and the propagandists took full advantage
Brainwashed? He freed the German people from usury, poverty, and other things. How do you think they're going to react to him?
For me to even have the debate the merits of Hitler in 2024 is ludicrous
Well see - that's what I mean. You cannot have an open, honest discussion about Hitler because the default narrative is that he's evil, and if you point out otherwise, you're an evil Hitler lover. That's why I'm not going to go in-depth on this, because my posts will get removed.
You give a bad name to conservatives
I don't care about the opinions of Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, Breitbart, Prager U, Townhall.com, and other conservative gate-keepers.
Liberals will screenshot your comments and try to label us all as being like you.
I'm going to be called an evil right-winger regardless if I cuck to the Left or stand strong on principle. And I don't get on my knees for anyone except my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and the old lady when we're, uh, role-playing.
If you look up John Locke’s grave, you will see that it is made of concrete with a metal fence. I take that symbolically that Europe completely repudiated individualism.
I have over 25K followers on X and a Telegram channel. If FR wants to ZOT me, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.
Hitler was a left winger. The parallels between himself and Stalin are too numerous to count offhand.
I'm not going to explain this again. National socialism had absolutely nothing to do with the leftism that's associated with Communism.
That’s because the only difference between communism and fascism is that you are allowed to conditionally own property and a business under fascism, as you enforce the government mandates and that you allow yourself to be taxed heavily so they government take your money and redistribute it. Under communism, the government owns all.
In Europe, the difference between fascism and communism is basically right-left wing and left-left wing.
No, not even that.
In “The Principles of Communism”, Engels explained that “the proletarian revolution will transform existing society gradually and will be able to abolish private property only when the means of production are available in sufficient quantity”; it’s clear where seeming deviations such as Lenin’s New Economic Policy and even fascism and national socialism are intended to lead; just compare Stalin’s “socialism in one country” and modern China’s “socialism with Chinese characteristics” with national socialism/fascism.
You are correct there is no hard core border on the left. No matter how light you are with the big government touch and communal ownership, it eventually becomes totalitarian and murderous and complete loss of private property.
Hitler was a communist in 1917 before he became fascist and he leaned back to communism once he was securely in power. China also has equivocated between communism and fascism since the revolution. The became fascist to encourage investment and are now heading back towards communism under Winnie.
As Eric Voegelin had said, totalitarians always wanted to imminentize the eschaton. That said, a lot of them were just in it for the exercise of power in the service of slaughter and atrocity.
Interesting phrase, imminentize the eschaton. I understand it now.
Germany’s socialism at the time was contained within that country. If the people wanted it, who cares?
“ get on my knees for anyone except my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ ”
You call yourself a believer and yet admire Hitler.
Sickening .
There was no admiration of Hitler in my posts. It was just a blunt assessment of why he came to power.
“ There was no admiration of Hitler in my posts.”
You might want to reread what you wrote.
Your words are fawning over Hitler.
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