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Vegetable oil is the latest villain in the sights of those who keep up on nutritional trends. Of course, in the minds of many people, nothing will ever match the evilness of wheat and other carbohydrates. Those who try to let common sense guide their dietary views will likely adopt a more middle of the road point of view.
1 posted on 02/07/2024 8:46:30 AM PST by fireman15
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I eat low-carb and still eat plenty of veggies. Most oils are processed crap.


2 posted on 02/07/2024 8:49:35 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Well, this explains Soybois.


3 posted on 02/07/2024 8:50:48 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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4 posted on 02/07/2024 8:51:07 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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Seed oils are unhealthful.

As I understand it, butter, even lard is better (less harmful) than soy or canola. (Do your own DD.)

Interestingly, the impact is likely greater on the vegetarian/vegan folks, who ironically insist that we omnivores follow their cultish lifestyle.

5 posted on 02/07/2024 8:51:38 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston ChurchIill)
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Obviously Klaus and Bill have soybeans in their crosshairs. They have adequate luxury bunker stocks, so it's fend for yourself. Personally I prefer using lard and, or, olive oil.

We are governed by elites that think "Dr.Strangelove" was a step forward in human existence. A business plan really.

6 posted on 02/07/2024 8:51:48 AM PST by blackdog ((Z28.310) Be careful what you say. Your refrigerator may be listening & reporting you.)
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Uh oh......bad news for the tofu crowd.


8 posted on 02/07/2024 8:55:12 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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Those who try to let common sense guide their dietary views will likely adopt a more middle of the road point of view.

Sure, lets introduce massive amounts of estrogen into our food supply and turn all the little boys into middle of the road "its". Common sense? Time to start using it.

Soy and Phytoestrogens

"Phytoestrogens are present in certain edible plants being most abundant in soy; they are structurally and functionally analogous to the estrogens. Phytoestrogens have been applied for compensation of hormone deficiency in the menopause. At the same time, soy products are used in infant food and other foodstuffs. Furthermore, soy is applied as animal fodder, so that residual phytoestrogens and their active metabolites such as equol can remain in meat and influence the hormonal balance of the consumers. There have been only singular reports on modified gender-related behavior or feminization in humans in consequence of soy consumption. In animals, the intake of phytoestrogens was reported to impact fertility, sexual development and behavior. Feminizing effects in humans can be subtle and identifiable only statistically in large populations.
Keywords: phytoestrogens, soy, menopause, nutrition"

9 posted on 02/07/2024 8:56:29 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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Not to worry, more “research” will come out in a few years stating its healthy again.

Coffee and eggs have been going back and forth for decades.

Gotta keep that government research grant money coming in somehow!


12 posted on 02/07/2024 9:00:36 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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While it is true most oils labled “vegetable oil” either are just soybean oil or contain a mix of soybean oil and/or corn oil and or canola oil.

But people who cook a lot at home can chose canola oil and olive oil and avoid the less healthy “vegetable oil”.

The caveat is when it comes to eating out and store bought foods, you can’t be sure which “vegetable” oil is used/included.

However, the level of soybean oil fed to the rats may have been extreme and not analogous to what most people consume in any manner.


13 posted on 02/07/2024 9:03:13 AM PST by Wuli
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Canola oil, soybean oil, and corn oil all have been demonized. I get that lard is now considered “safe”, then there’s peanut oil, avocado oil, and grapeseed oil, all of which are twice the price, or more, than vegetable oil. I buy olive oil for salads and some cooking, but there’s no guarantee it’s not adulterated with cheap vegetable oil, unless I buy the really pricy Italian brands, which I can’t afford.. I very occasionally buy peanut oil, but for $17 A gallon, it doesn’t go far for deep frying. So, I’ll stick to vegetable oil and hope there’s more cottonseed than soybean in it.


14 posted on 02/07/2024 9:05:18 AM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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Two vegetarian friends of mine relied on seed oil for years, one took a vitamin supplement laced with soy for about 10 years, every day. They’ve got hypothyroidism now and have learned too late that many nutritionists and functional medicine practitioners consider soy a culprit in thyroid disease.


15 posted on 02/07/2024 9:05:31 AM PST by Buttons12 ( )
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Not so long ago, experts told us to use vegetable oils for health.


16 posted on 02/07/2024 9:06:58 AM PST by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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We’ve gone to mostly beef tallow at my place. Olive oil in some instances.


17 posted on 02/07/2024 9:15:50 AM PST by Rio
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Does this mean that I need to give up the tablespoon or two of Wesson oil I use when I fry potatoes and/or eggs for breakfast?


22 posted on 02/07/2024 9:50:42 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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Animal fats. Bacon grease, lard, tallow, and high quality olive oil are all I use these days. Vegetable oils were originally industrial lubricants, not food. Men should avoid soy in any capacity.


26 posted on 02/07/2024 10:09:44 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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bfl


27 posted on 02/07/2024 10:13:34 AM PST by Faith65 (Isaiah 40:31 )
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Tens of millions of Chinese should be dying of cancer.


29 posted on 02/07/2024 10:19:03 AM PST by Bookshelf
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Vegetable oil isn’t something I want to consume regularly.

I prefer Peanut oil and Olive oil.


30 posted on 02/07/2024 10:25:35 AM PST by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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If a consumable doesn’t exist in nature, there’s a good chance the human body has problems using and digesting it.


38 posted on 02/07/2024 10:53:48 AM PST by glorgau
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The problem is not soybean oil, it’s linoleic acid. Dr. Mercola has a great article on this. Here’s some of my notes: • 1865 - 2g/day (1% of total calories); 1909 - 5g; 1999 - 18g, 2008 - 29g; 2020 (25%+). • Half-life of LA is around 600 to 680 days • excess LA hinders mitochondria • LA Contributes to Heart Disease & Cancer • Get LA <7g/day. Assume 90% Omega-6 is LA • Olive oil 10% • Wheat germ 55%, walnut 53%, pecan 50%, pumpkin seeds 45%, Brazil 43%, peanut 32%, almond 16%, pistachio 13%, flax 14%, hazelnut 12%, cashew 8%, Mac 2% Chicken / pork 25%

Personally, I’m at about 11g per day, which is about 5% of calories. I have a large inventory in nuts, but have stopped frying eggs in sesame oil, reduced olive oil, and avoid a few other sources of LA.

46 posted on 02/07/2024 11:47:21 AM PST by The Truth Will Make You Free
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