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1 posted on 01/25/2024 11:18:00 AM PST by Red Badger
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but Apple will have the iCar in 2028 ,LOL


2 posted on 01/25/2024 11:19:27 AM PST by butlerweave
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I’ll always believe that the point was to reduce the number of IC vehicles, and make the rest prohibitively expensive, for many.


3 posted on 01/25/2024 11:20:30 AM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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It's hard to think of someone better to go to for an opinion on cars than a rental company. It's not just anecdotal, as they have a large sample size, and also corporate and accounting people who make it their business to do cost analysis
4 posted on 01/25/2024 11:21:51 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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There’s “range anxiety” and now we have “EV tire anxiety” — they are lasting 7,000 to 10,000 miles.

Fun historic tidbit: What was the original, first name GM gave the “EV1”?
Hint: It was one of the stupidest names for a car ever.


5 posted on 01/25/2024 11:27:43 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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It has been long known that electric cars have some pretty severe problems in deep cold, and redirect a large portion of their banked power to heat the passengers and the car itself just to maintain function.

I did not know that the chargers quit working in the cold.


6 posted on 01/25/2024 11:28:45 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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I have a friend who has an EV. She’s very, very proud of it. It is quiet, but she does get range anxiety, as I witnessed first hand. We were traveling on an unfamiliar route for her, and she wanted to make VERY sure we didn’t miss a turn on our way back to her house. I’ve never witnessed her be anxious before that trip.

Another thing I noticed was that she charged her car at one upscale grocery store while she shopped. I couldn’t help but notice how much higher the prices for groceries were there. I guess the other patrons are excited to pay the higher prices so that she can charge her car “for free”.


9 posted on 01/25/2024 11:42:49 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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I’m not ready to write the epitaph for EVs just yet.

The left keeps pushing them very strongly. Leftists are concentrated in cities. EVs are fine for city driving, where they are unlikely to run low on charge during short commutes (even with city traffic). The leftists who own EVs cannot imagine that anyone has different driving needs than they, so see no reason to not keep pushing EVs.

Of course, if they have their way and EVs become the majority of vehicles on the road, the problem of charging them is going to run head-on into the problem of electricity shortages caused by leftist “environmental” policies. Maybe then, they will realize what a boondoggle they have created—but then again, maybe not. They’ll just blame “greed” as they always do.


11 posted on 01/25/2024 11:57:18 AM PST by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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A general rule of thumb:

Any solution to anything pushed hard by government bureaucrats is going to end up being a boondoggle.

There are occasional exceptions, but they are far and few between.


13 posted on 01/25/2024 11:59:44 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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Jack Kerouac. What a loser. All he did was write a book about vagrancy. The fantasy of the freedom to wander around doing drugs and having free sex before the days of me too was attractive to a lot of people who had no choice but to work 9 to 5 50 weeks out of the year. My wife does audit books and she finishes every one she starts no matter how crappy. Kerouac was crappy. I listened to part of it with her and was disgusted. He brags about getting by on the largesse of others and stealing to get by. I didn’t stay for the ending.


19 posted on 01/25/2024 12:22:47 PM PST by webheart
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EVs are exactly like the Ukraine War.

All based on payoffs to politicians and incessant propaganda.


21 posted on 01/25/2024 12:38:00 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (“We should not assume civilization is robust”)
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“Hertz also experienced higher repair and tire costs with its EV fleet.”

Just read about a surprised (shocked?) EV owner who learned his EV with 7,000 miles on it needed a $1,500 new set of tires. EV tires carry so much more weight they have to be much more expensive to achieve even that ridiculously low mileage.

If tires don’t go up in price at all, that’s $21,428.57 worth of tires to drive 100,000 miles!


25 posted on 01/25/2024 12:48:22 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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Electric bicycles are a big success in our retirement communities here in SW Florida. The cars are good for around town, but the SUV rules the road.


30 posted on 01/25/2024 12:52:56 PM PST by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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EVs are the future, and always will be.


39 posted on 01/25/2024 1:05:33 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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We are not alone - listen to these Chinese and their EV woes:

Driving Covered with a Blanket, No AC, Even Pushing Cars! China’s EVs Only 30% Range in Winter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf9Ax4Crcy8

Huawei EV Crashes Into BYD, AEB Out of Control? China’s EVs Are Just Rubbish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzNONy3Q6Rg


47 posted on 01/25/2024 1:11:37 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Common Sense killed the electric car.


56 posted on 01/25/2024 1:28:33 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (Accepting a false premise initiates conversational defeat.)
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California, where some 39% of EV car owners reside, do not abuse their batteries.

It’s true in the summer months they are on restricted charging time last year it was no charging until after 9:00pm.

A/C use causes some black outs transformers go off like pop corn.
Poor electrical grid can’t meet demands


63 posted on 01/25/2024 1:56:34 PM PST by Vaduz
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I’ve been saying ever since they came out the fourth time (first time 1890 died 1910, second time late 1980s died early 90s, third time EV1 1996-1999 RIP) that they’re considerably inferior ICE powered vehicles. Other than putting lipstick on a very smelly pig the current crop of EVs have all of the drawbacks of the former generation and nothing new to add except hype. (Note tagline)


68 posted on 01/25/2024 2:30:57 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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And while EV proponents claim gas stations too are vulnerable when the power goes out

Except..... you can get gas from a gas station when the power is out. You can certainly get enough to start a generator to run the rest of the pumps.

Which means that at five minutes per car you could get 12 cars back on the road in an hour even if you only had a tiny generator that ran one pump. Even if you were getting the gas from the tanks by hand you still would be able to get more cars running.

72 posted on 01/25/2024 3:32:53 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( In a quaint alleyway, they graciously signaled for a vehicle on the main road to lead the way. )
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““Who Killed the Electric Car?” explored the possibility that government and industry forces conspired to ensure the failure of the prototype electric vehicle of the mid-1990s: the General Motors EV1.”

I knew a person who had leased an EV1 (there were no sales, only leases). He told me that the battery was lead acid - so no Tesla-type fires, but you also didn’t get very far with it either, not at all. He told me about one time when he was driving it to conference to give a talk on EVs and it very nearly ran out of battery - kind of embarrassing if that had happened. LOL.


73 posted on 01/25/2024 4:02:46 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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Another article I read stated that EVs only get about 10,000 miles on a set of tires because they are so heavy.


82 posted on 01/26/2024 6:13:13 AM PST by ops33 (SMSgt, USAF, Retired)
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