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To: rlmorel

“his part in bringing down Alger Hiss”

The left never forgave Nixon for that one. Of course he was vindicated when the truth about Hiss came out, but the widespread infiltration of so many institutions in the ‘30s and ‘40s with Stalin’s dupes had to be covered up, and red hunters like Nixon and Joe McCarthy had to be vilified and discredited. In many ways, Nixon was the proto-Trump, viscerally hated the left in ways that establishment Repubs like the Bushes or even Reagan weren’t.

Why must Trump be discredited and destroyed? That’s the ultimate question. What about Trump and/or his agenda is such an existential threat to them? China? Immigration? SCOTUS? Some combination thereof? Something else entirely? I honestly don’t know, but I’d love to hear some opinions.


20 posted on 01/21/2024 6:48:07 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: irishjuggler

Why must Trump be discredited and destroyed? That’s the ultimate question. What about Trump and/or his agenda is such an existential threat to them? China? Immigration? SCOTUS? Some combination thereof? Something else entirely? I honestly don’t know, but I’d love to hear some opinions.


Trump was villified because he could not be predicte, controlled or cowed. He was also doing thing that were anathema to them, but they could not easily stop it (until the Pandemic).

I honestly do think of Trump as kind of a superman. A mere mortal would have buckled and resigned under the pressure he faced as a result of Russia Gate.

I think that any future Republican presidents (assuming there are any) will be tested and villfied in much the same way. We will see the extent to which Trump serves as a model for them.


22 posted on 01/21/2024 7:04:43 AM PST by rbg81
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To: irishjuggler

“Why must Trump be discredited and destroyed? That’s the ultimate question”

Pure jealousy. Because he made his fortune by honest, intelligent business dealings.

The DC crowd goes up there as people who for the most part couldn’t manage a lemonade stand and they make their fortune doing insider trading that would get any mere mortal locked in Federal prison for decades.

Look how they tried to destroy Martha Stewart. What she did was not a drop of water in the Pacific compared to what our betters engage in -every single day-. Yet they are allowed to do it.

If they were not in DC, most of our betters would be making meth in bathtubs for a living, if they were even that reputable.


36 posted on 01/21/2024 2:03:16 PM PST by Clay Moore (My pistol identifies as a cordless hole punch. )
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To: irishjuggler

Absolutely. And the same with McCarthy for his part in exposing Communist infiltration in our government.

As for Trump-I have come to the conclusion that they feel extremely threatened by Trump because he isn’t one of them, and they don’t have anything to hold over his head. (If they did, they would have used it long before now).

He is not beholden to them, and doesn’t answer to them.

It is alway why I have become a McCarthy historian, as amateur as I am, because the injustice done to that man sticks in my craw...especially what we know of the Left today.

If we had gotten behind him and supported McCarthy and not let him be easily slandered the way he was back in the early Fifties, the problems we have today with the Left might not be so appalling.

McCarthy is an American Hero, and should be treated as such. For too long, we have simply swallowed what the Left has characterized McCarthy as. I heard it from the media. From the school and colleges I went to. I heard it from everyone, so...he must have been a bad man.

Nothing of the sort. He should be celebrated.


37 posted on 01/21/2024 2:37:03 PM PST by rlmorel ("The stigma for being wrong is gone, as long as you're wrong for the right side." (Clarice Feldman))
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