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Weekly Garden Thread - January 20-26, 2024 [Seed Catalogs 101 Edition]
January 20, 2024 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 01/20/2024 7:00:36 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a week Ping List. We DO post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: catalogs; dreaming; foodsecurity; gardening; seeds
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1 posted on 01/20/2024 7:00:36 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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How To Read Seed Catalogs

Get the most from your garden order

Every year in late winter to early spring new seed/plant catalogs arrive in our mailboxes or onto our favorite gardening eCommerce sites. The anticipation of new varieties and the sheer number of available cultivars fuels our collective gardening fervor.

Balancing our gardening frenzy with more prudent purchasing is a skill new and seasoned gardeners must acquire: Have fun but be practical.

Here are some insights and guidelines to help navigate the printed or online pages of your favorite seed and plant catalogs.

Learn the seed catalog’s layout

First, figure out the organization of the catalog or website. Find the index of variety categories or category pages of the company website. For example, look for important categories like non-GMO or Organic options.

In a print index you can highlight categories with the most interest that will require in-depth investigation. If you work from this process, when you get deep into the pages and become dizzied by the sheer number of splendid sounding varieties and totally forget what you were even looking for, you can always go back to the index or return to the website home page to reset. Then continue with a more focused and frugal search.

Identify the symbols

Many seed catalogs and online garden stores will use icons, symbols, or “Collections” to indicate varieties that offer reliability and valuable plant predictability. If you are not familiar with these or simply miss them, you may be overlooking dependable or superior cultivars.

Here are examples of helpful symbols or collections you might find in seed catalogs or on websites:

‘Flagship Seeds’—The “Flagship Seed Collection” are tried-and-true varieties proven in our own test gardens and from our customers’ gardens.
‘H’—indicates heirloom or heritage, open-pollinated varieties that have been in commerce for over 50 years.
‘AAS Winners’—These are All American Selections of flowers and vegetables that have been “Tested Nationally & Proven Locally” by this impartial, non-profit gardening organization. You can be assured these items are tested for their superior home garden performance by horticultural professionals from every corner of the U.S.

Review shipping schedules

Shipping schedules are important—you need to know what to expect. Planning is paramount for gardeners—you need to prepare.

If you cannot find the information you are looking for, just ask. Every eCommerce site will have a “Contact Us” tab or button, so don’t be afraid to utilize it.

Asking for shipping information is way better than being surprised by a package or worse, missing an important planting window.

More helpful tips

As with any retail business, prices may be discounted for bulk orders, or there may be “Early Bird’ specials. If these are not front and center search them out or just ask.

Maybe the company has periodic specials for free shipping. Again, it never hurts to ask if this is not immediately evident online or in the catalog. Give customer service a call.

Beginner gardeners should always search for “Starter Kits”. These will typically have all the components and tools needed for getting started, usually with savings already built in.

When shopping online, you often get pop-ups or suggestions for additional items or companion plants. While these can sometimes be annoying, understand they are always created thoughtfully by the company to be a useful tool not just a bother. If you forget to order something, that can cost more in additional shipping charges in the long run.

Know the warranty

We never want or expect to have plants fail, but we know gardening can be full of surprises. Shipping plants in dark, humid boxes to far-off destinations can be wrought with peril for live plants. Find the warranty info on the company website or catalog just in case you need to make a claim.

Read, think, dream

One of the most important tips about reading gardening catalogs is to try not to get overwhelmed by all the options and information. Seed and plant catalogs are not meant to be read cover-to-cover like a mystery novel. Instead, consider plant descriptions as mere “Mental Morsels”.

Descriptions should be read, analyzed, and mulled over—the material is more “Gideons” than “Grisham.” Read, think, and then dream about what plants might be and how to best use them to create a successful, beautiful, and bountiful garden next year.

You can’t plant EVERYTHING, can you?
https://acreagelife.com/hobby-farming/how-to-read-seed-catalogs


2 posted on 01/20/2024 7:02:00 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: 4everontheRight; Augie; Apple Pan Dowdy; Aevery_Freeman; ApplegateRanch; ArtDodger; AloneInMass; ...

3 posted on 01/20/2024 7:03:26 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: FRiends

Top 21 FREE Seed Catalogs in 2024:

https://simplysmartgardening.com/free-seed-catalogs/

The Best Seed Catalogs for 2024:

https://www.gardenbetty.com/best-garden-seed-catalogs/


4 posted on 01/20/2024 7:04:55 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Good morning...with a foot of snow on the ground...the garden is asleep. Catalogs do help me dream. Thanks for this thread.


5 posted on 01/20/2024 7:06:10 AM PST by goodnesswins ( We pretend to vote and they pretend to count the votes.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

https://seedvilleusa.com/collections/fruit-seeds

That is mainly for northerners.

I bought some seeds at Dollar Tree here in Florida earlier this week.

The local Walmart just got in its seeds.


6 posted on 01/20/2024 7:09:04 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Some people may be interested in this:

https://hsvbg.org/2017/07/27/native-azalea-propagation-methods-of-vernon-bush/


7 posted on 01/20/2024 7:18:55 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Birds peck at my tomatoes as soon as they turn red.

I’m going to try to hide the tomato plants with ripening tomatoes with kitchen trash bags this year.


8 posted on 01/20/2024 7:22:10 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin; FRiends

Up here I’ll shop locally at Walmart and Farm & Fleet for basic seeds.

A few weeks ago, Menard’s (like a Home Depot), already had their seeds out, and I got their already reduced price on Burpee Seed, as well as an addition 15% off. Score! :)

I bought: Spinach, Roma VF Tomato, various Lettuces, Basil (Genovvese & Lemondrop) and Marigolds, Cosmos, Zinnia and Nasturtium. Also two 16-cell flats with Jiffy Pellets for starting tomatoes and some all-around-good-for-everyone fertilizer. :)

And, Yes. I DID ‘pledge’ to not order anything from my Stack-O-Catalogs until I sorted through what’s already on hand for 2024. I’m organizing seed packets while Beau is off to a Hunter’s Expo, today.

It’s a Good Day. :)


9 posted on 01/20/2024 7:23:43 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: goodnesswins

I realize I’m a different bird, but when it’s cold outside and there’s snow on the ground, I enjoy watching the animals outside my window. Maybe I’ll hit the seed catalogs in a couple of weeks. I’m kind of enjoying this weather, though I wouldn’t mind it being a few degrees warmer.


10 posted on 01/20/2024 7:26:02 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

11 posted on 01/20/2024 7:30:51 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: FRiends

In my effort to ‘keep it cheap’ this season, I’ll be making a bunch of these paper seed-starting pots in the coming weeks:

How to Make Recycled Newspaper Pots for Seed Starting

https://www.gardenbetty.com/how-to-make-recycled-newspaper-pots-for-seed-starting/#mv-creation-33-jtr

Oooo! Fancy ‘Origami’ seed starting pots! Video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmwyyqGuNGo


12 posted on 01/20/2024 7:31:08 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: FamiliarFace

Oh yes...I have been busy rotating hummingbird feeders and keeping other feeders full of seed during our sub freezing weeks.


13 posted on 01/20/2024 7:31:29 AM PST by goodnesswins ( We pretend to vote and they pretend to count the votes.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Looks like my gardening work area! Almost exactly, though I may have another inch or so of snow on mine!


14 posted on 01/20/2024 7:35:44 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: goodnesswins

The birds are loving our suet feeders, and the deer enjoy the neighbors salt lick. I can tell we have some critter staying warm under our deck. Footprints go straight from the woods out back to under the lattice under the deck. Gonna have to chase him/her out when it starts to thaw around here. Hope whatever it is doesn’t do too much damage. I need to learn animal snow prints. I know birds, deer, raccoons, and squirrels. This isn’t one of those. Maybe a possum?


15 posted on 01/20/2024 7:41:32 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: FamiliarFace

Yes; we Baltimorons got 4”, and then another 4”. Luckily it is powdery and not too heavy to sweep and shovel. Don’t know how much longer this old gal can still do her own shoveling in heavy snow.

I do notice that since I stopped coloring my hair and let it go white, perfect strangers are trying to help me all over the place, with shopping carts, Home Depot guys taking packages to my car, neighbors doing the street sidewalk (I have to stop them from doing the walk on my property). Nothing else has changed; I’m still strong and I want to keep going and not take it too easy. I try to do what I can for my neighbors; like if I have the leaf blower out, I’ll do part of theirs that abuts my yard. I guess tne day might come when I have to limit it to sharing baked goods...


16 posted on 01/20/2024 7:44:00 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

We didn’t get that much, maybe 3+ inches. It’s just terribly cold here, and I’m an ole Florida gal. I dislike single digits and below. Not my cup of tea, so to speak.


17 posted on 01/20/2024 7:54:52 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The Experimental Farm Network is proving to be this year’s most dangerous catalog for me. So much cool stuff!!!!

https://store.experimentalfarmnetwork.org/


18 posted on 01/20/2024 8:32:14 AM PST by Ellendra (A single lie on our side does more damage than a thousand lies on their side.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Feb 1 my first seeds get planted.

It’ll be onions and lavender. It would be rosemary, too, but I have to wait until I find seeds locally. It’s not worth ordering them and paying shipping for just one item.


19 posted on 01/20/2024 8:33:11 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Brian Griffin

I have heard the suggestion of hanging red Christmas ornaments on the plants before they produce fruit. Then the birds go after them and find they can’t eat them and eventually quit trying because they learned that they can’t eat them.

When the actual tomatoes come in, then, the birds still think they can’t eat them.

Sounds like it could work.


20 posted on 01/20/2024 8:36:21 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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