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Panic Setting in Among Democrats Over Joe Biden, 'It's Even Worse Than It Looks'
Red State ^ | 12/21/2023 | Bonchie

Posted on 12/21/2023 1:48:43 PM PST by Signalman

According to far-left outlet Slate, which is loath to ever criticize a Democrat, Biden is facing the worst environment for an incumbent president since the Great Depression. Poll after poll shows the president's numbers plummeting to record lows.

As President Joe Biden grows increasingly mystified by his unpopularity, he is also experiencing the worst polling of his presidency. This plummet was punctuated by last Thursday’s release of several Bloomberg/Morning Consult surveys showing him getting swept in a series of battleground states. Then, on Tuesday, yet another New York Times/Siena College survey showed former President Donald Trump beating Biden nationally and, perhaps most shockingly, with young voters. Now that the contact high of the most recent Democratic election overperformance in November’s off-year contests has worn off, genuine fear has set in among both Democratic insiders and the rank and file as the president trails Trump by 3 points in the RealClearPolitics average.

Precisely how scared Democrats should be about Biden’s standing depends on how his plight compares with those of presidents past. And there’s no sugarcoating it: This might be the worst polling environment for an incumbent president one year out from an election since the advent of the polling era in the 1930s and also the most dire situation facing any Democratic presidential candidate in decades. Panic is entirely warranted.

It's not just head-to-head polling that has become a horror show for Biden. As the article notes, the current president is in far worse shape regarding his approval ratings than Donald Trump was at this point in the 2020 election cycle. Specifically, Biden's net negative approval is nearly twice as high.

It gets worse. In his approval ratings, too, compared with his incumbent predecessors, Biden is likewise off on an island, in all the wrong ways. Bush was sporting 58 percent favorability at this stage in the 2004 cycle, with nearly a 21-point net favorability. Obama was at 45 percent with a net negative approval of -4 points. (Of course, both went on to win their elections.) Trump was at 44 percent and -8.8 net approval, and we all know what happened there. Biden as of this writing is averaging just 40.5 percent in the RealClearPolitics average, with a net -15.4—nearly twice as bad as Trump on net.

There are two ways to look at this if you are a Republican, and I think both are valid. On one hand, it is never a bad thing to be leading among various indicators heading into an election. Biden has multiple things working against him. His actual performance has been abysmal, but he is also perceived as feeble, senile, and rapidly declining due to his advanced age. Worse for him, he's perceived that way because those things are actually happening. There's no recovering from that with just a shift in messaging.

On the other hand, Republicans have to be extremely careful to not get overconfident. We've been fooled by bad polling before, including in the most recent major election. Democrats not only overperformed in 2022, but they've overperformed in almost every special election since. There is certainly a turnout dynamic that has been favoring them since 2018, and it can't be ignored.

Advertisement The worst thing Republicans could do is assume Biden will simply lose by default. There's a ton of money that will be spent by Democrats in 2024, and their most ruthless moves (especially regarding the weaponization of government) will be played in the summer, not now.

Regardless, Biden is in trouble, and Democrats know he's in trouble. How far into the process can the party wait before making a change? Conceivably, Biden could hang around until the convention so as not to become a lame duck too early. He could then bow out gracefully, citing some kind of health issue. Democrats would then be able to reset the race at the perfect time.

Would Biden do that, though? I highly doubt it. Jill Biden's ambition wouldn't let him. She enjoys being treated like a pampered queen, and she's not going to let that go willingly. In other words, Democrats look like they are screwed, but Republicans need to campaign like they are down five points. Take nothing for granted.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: biden; bidenvoters; loserjoe; panicsettingin; pedojoe; polling; redstate
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1 posted on 12/21/2023 1:48:43 PM PST by Signalman
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To: Signalman

Add more starch!


2 posted on 12/21/2023 1:50:48 PM PST by twister881
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To: Signalman

Cornered Rats are dangerous.


3 posted on 12/21/2023 1:52:48 PM PST by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: Signalman
Those polls are just telling the Dems how much they need to cheat by to win. That's what is really scaring them...
4 posted on 12/21/2023 1:54:15 PM PST by jeffc (Resident of the free State of Florida)
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To: GOPJ; poconopundit; Jane Long; Diana in Wisconsin; Grampa Dave; Godzilla; Vaduz; null and void; ...

Schadenfreude break.


5 posted on 12/21/2023 1:55:04 PM PST by Liz (Women have tremendous power — their femininity, because men can't do without it. Sidney Sheldon)
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To: Signalman

I disagree. They have a plan and will work it to perfection.


6 posted on 12/21/2023 1:56:13 PM PST by devane617 (Discipline Is Reliable, Motivation Is Fleeting..)
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To: Signalman

Let’s say Biden isn’t on the ballot in November...who do the Democrats have in their lineup who could go up against Trump? They already took RFK, Jr. out of the running so who’s left?

I say that more as a rhetorical question because they got nothing and they know it.

Which makes me worry for President Trump all the more. His safety is going to be an issue as his election becomes unstoppable.


7 posted on 12/21/2023 1:56:47 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Signalman

I call BS. The only panic Democrats have is the fear they don’t have enough paper/ink to print up pre-marked FAKE BALLOTS!!


8 posted on 12/21/2023 1:57:47 PM PST by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Signalman

Well, any numbers that are close will favor biden because voter fraud and illegals.

But when the voting gets outside the margin of fraud a different dynamic takes.

The dems have been placing illegals all over the country. But where exactly. in time it will likely be shown that they were place strategically in districts that only need a couple hundred or a couple thousand new votes to swing the voting in the democrats favor.

So even though trump may win. the down ballots will go the other way as it did 2023 and 2022.

I have no proof that this is what happened in virginia in november when the repubicans lost. But democrats do not come out for off term elections. this time they did. but who came out?


9 posted on 12/21/2023 1:59:32 PM PST by ckilmer (ui)
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To: Signalman

It will be either Michelle or Hillary by acclamation at the convention. The media will love the drama. The ballots will be counted and Trump will lose. Officially, it won’t be a surprise at all.


10 posted on 12/21/2023 2:00:47 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Signalman

I am mystified that anyone would vote for a person for President, whose mind is not there. However, the thing that plummeted him was the millions of unknown people he invited in and they came.

Tx had to bus them north to show the people what Joe Barry is doing the media wasn’t telling.

It’s akin to a house invasion. The religious folks can condemn us for wanting them gone.. They wouldn’t have it in their back yard. Compassion is for all others.

This isn’t compassion.. It’s still invading. You wouldn’t let strangers in your home.. We don’t want them in our land.


11 posted on 12/21/2023 2:01:03 PM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: Signalman

I hope his security team isn’t off somewhere filming sex videos and doing coke- and Biden suffer a terminal fall.


12 posted on 12/21/2023 2:01:19 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: Signalman
The polls do not matter. Not one little bit. The fix is in.

Republicans have done nothing to counter rampant vote fraud in the critical swing states. They have done nothing to oppose the Democrat initiatives in removing Donald Trump from the ballot in several States on legalistic pretenses.

The Republicans have done nothing.

The Republicans still think they can keep their fund-raising jobs after they lose the next election. They are wrong. The smarter ones are retiring now with as much cash as they can stuff into their bank accounts.

13 posted on 12/21/2023 2:01:50 PM PST by flamberge (Things which cannot continue, don't.)
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To: MeganC

:: who do the Democrats have in their lineup who could go up against Trump? ::

Any ONE of 3 body doubles they have.

There is even the possibility that Biden wasn’t ‘the original’ when he took the oath of office in 2021.
Research “British TV Enactment of the Inauguration”
This aired at 9AM EST so the Brits could watch it before they fell asleep.

Some say Biden was already dead on 01/20/2021


14 posted on 12/21/2023 2:01:50 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (When I say "We" I speak of, -not for-, "We the People")
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To: All

Aside from Trump beating him in every poll, Biden has multiple things working against him.
<><>he has a surviving son under indictment
<><>he is not getting credit for “saving democracy”
<><>his actual performance as president has been abysmal,
<><>his foreign policy negatives are insurmountable
<><>vote-getting domestic successes are non-existent
<><>he is perceived as feeble, senile, and rapidly declining due to his advanced age,
<><>he’s perceived that way because those things are actually happening to him,
<><>a shift in campaign messaging wont hack it,
<><>however the parented Democrat voter fraud machine is a definite plus.


15 posted on 12/21/2023 2:07:39 PM PST by Liz (Women have tremendous power — their femininity, because men can't do without it. Sidney Sheldon)
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To: MeganC
they (the Dems) got nothing and they know it.

I agree. Newsom has worst prospects than RFK Jr. Look what he's done to CA as Governor and when he was mayor of San Fran. I can see the Trump ads now. He'll destroy Newsom.
16 posted on 12/21/2023 2:09:00 PM PST by Signalman
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To: ClearCase_guy
It will be either Michelle or Hillary by acclamation at the convention.

It'll be Gavin Newsom. He's actually soft-running, unlike the other two.

As soon as Trump clinches the nomination, the Democrats are going to pull the ole' switcheroo and Newsom will be their nominee.

It certainly won't be Hillary, the only person who ever lost an election to Trump. And Big Mike seems content in living a wealthy, leisure-filled life hanging out with A-list celebrities. She doesn't want to inherit the mess Biden will put on her plate.

17 posted on 12/21/2023 2:09:31 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins..)
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To: Signalman

The Democrat/Communist Party is in a panic because they don’t have anyone that can carry a national election ... plus the fact that there’s no way in hell Eff-JB is going to be the nominee ... so there’s that!


18 posted on 12/21/2023 2:11:06 PM PST by glennaro (Never give up ... never give in ... never surrender ... and enjoy every minute of doing so.)
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To: Signalman

It’s not just Biden. They know most people have had enough of everything from the woke to the border to the cost of living. All of which gets tagged to the Left.


19 posted on 12/21/2023 2:12:54 PM PST by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: Signalman

We are so gullible. Everything is going exactly as planned. They knew he’d lose his marbles during his presidency. We act like the left can’t think things through. And they have the ability to remove him from office tomorrow— and Jill Biden doesn’t have a vote.

This is all planned.


20 posted on 12/21/2023 2:13:44 PM PST by Salvavida
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