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Hospitals are dropping Medicare Advantage plans left and right: 13 updates
Backers Hospital Reviee ^ | November 16, 2023 | Jakob Emerson

Posted on 11/24/2023 10:47:42 AM PST by buckalfa

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To: PIF

in 2002 I had a 5 way bypass in Anaheim Cardio Hospital. They kept me 4 days before surgery, because they wanted the blood thinner out of my system So I was there in cardio ICU 7 days, including 3 days after a 7 hour surgery.

Cost? 225,000 I paid nothing, including for physical rehab.


61 posted on 11/24/2023 12:22:53 PM PST by coalminersson (since )
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To: COBOL2Java

Yup—the investment space is particularly brutal.

In these days of super low fees do it yourself investing these legacy high fee firms prey on seniors who have not figured out the new world of investing.


62 posted on 11/24/2023 12:23:43 PM PST by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: CFW; PIF; ConservativeMind; Tilted Irish Kilt; Qiviut; metmom

“Physicians are good for setting bones and stitching cuts..but that’s about all today.”

Anyone with a computer these days who does not immediately Google “nutrition and supplements to help condition XXX” after a diagnosis is missing important help. Three years ago doctors said my cataracts must have surgery as no treatment existed. I discovered at Google there were indeed several supplements I was not yet taking that could help. After 3 years my vision is 70 to 80% better. The glare of headlights no longer bothers my night driving except for those high brightness bluish headlights that everyone hates.

Even if you just think you have a health problem do the Google search. Then when you go to get a confirmed diagnosis you will have some pointed questions to ask. Unfortunately, you will discover that most doctors know almost nothing about nutrition, not even what can help or hurt in their specialty should you happen to be directed to a specialist by your GP or Internal Medicine practitioner.

As we have discovered, almost all the $6 billion a year that Dr. Fauci controlled was directed to drug research, very little to prevention or nutritional related treatments. As of late spring 2020 he said Vitamins C and D were not helpful for Covid. By Nov. that year he had to reluctantly admit he might be wrong based on a lot more information about Covid infections.


63 posted on 11/24/2023 12:28:13 PM PST by gleeaikin ( Question authority)
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To: Jane Long

Not just the ILLEGALS, thinden.....the elephant in the room, that hasn’t been mentioned by the leftist, lying media and CDC is.... it’s likely the D@MN $hots causing the ‘catastrophic harm’ on our healthcare system.

All. By. Design.

^^^^^^^^^^

excellent observation, jane.


64 posted on 11/24/2023 12:28:17 PM PST by thinden (buckle up ....)
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To: buckalfa

Sure looks like it.


65 posted on 11/24/2023 12:31:01 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: coalminersson

225,000 I paid nothing, including for physical rehab.

Sounds like a teachers union, federal or state plan.


66 posted on 11/24/2023 12:31:03 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: buckalfa

It’s all part of going toward Universal Healthcare.....time is not on our side for too much longer.


67 posted on 11/24/2023 12:31:32 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: MayflowerMadam

good on you

not that supplementals are the greatest, my BCBS is going up 60% 1/1/2024, $406.00

and i have to pay it, i need it...


68 posted on 11/24/2023 12:31:52 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: G Larry

Watch your perscription plans.....mine was dropped and will swich to new plan Jan. 1st. We have no say in this for the most part.


69 posted on 11/24/2023 12:33:11 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: cgbg
This stuff is ridiculously confusing—with Medicare Parts A,B,C, D and more (!) with different rules to follow....

Oh, it’s a lot worse than that. They use multiple names for the same things and in some cases one name can refer to two different plans.

I lucked out and had an advisor who also shows the insa nd ours of Medicare approaches.

70 posted on 11/24/2023 12:35:32 PM PST by gitmo (If your biography doesn't match your theology, what good is it?)
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To: coalminersson
... Cost? 225,000 I paid nothing, including for physical rehab.

Do you know the actual amount that was paid? And how are you covered, meaning insurance and/or Medicare?

71 posted on 11/24/2023 12:36:34 PM PST by gloryblaze
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To: gleeaikin; All

You may find this podcast interesting:

How To Prevent and Reverse Cataracts
by Dr. Bryan Ardis | Oct 3, 2023 | Health
https://www.americaoutloud.news/how-to-prevent-and-reverse-cataracts/


72 posted on 11/24/2023 12:40:14 PM PST by Qiviut (If the genocide was unintentional, they would have pulled the poison vaccines, long ago.)
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To: gloryblaze

The ‘billed rate’ and the paid rate by medicare AND insurers with agreements are vastly different. From what I’ve seen in my own bills from hospitals the actual payoff is less than 10% of the billed amount.


73 posted on 11/24/2023 12:41:32 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: PIF

That’s what the supplemental insurance is there for. With Medicare and my grandfathered Plan F plan, I actually haven’t had to pay anything.


74 posted on 11/24/2023 12:44:51 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
The ‘billed rate’ and the paid rate by medicare AND insurers with agreements are vastly different. From what I’ve seen in my own bills from hospitals the actual payoff is less than 10% of the billed amount.

Yes, that dime on the dollar is my experience, too. But someone has to be paying a LOT higher, or the hospitals would all go bankrupt yesterday. I have tried and tried to get the facts, but no cigar.

75 posted on 11/24/2023 12:50:08 PM PST by gloryblaze
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To: Qiviut

bttt


76 posted on 11/24/2023 12:52:15 PM PST by thinden (buckle up ....)
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To: gloryblaze; Gaffer

The ‘billed rate’ and the paid rate by medicare AND insurers with agreements are vastly different. From what I’ve seen in my own bills from hospitals the actual payoff is less than 10% of the billed amount.

Yes, that dime on the dollar is my experience, too. But someone has to be paying a LOT higher, or the hospitals would all go bankrupt yesterday. I have tried and tried to get the facts, but no cigar.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

you think that the Rx prescription side is the bigger racket?


77 posted on 11/24/2023 12:54:17 PM PST by thinden (buckle up ....)
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To: gloryblaze

Hospitals jump for joy when they present a bill to a monied-patient with no real insurance because they’re stupid enough to actually pay that inflated bill. One example is birthing - a young couple having their first child and really no insurance to speak of.

My advice to ANYONE who doesn’t have insurance or their insurance won’t cover something is to do a little work and interaction with the hospital financial arm and work out a cash price paid up front deal.


78 posted on 11/24/2023 12:54:22 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
Hospitals jump for joy when they present a bill to a monied-patient with no real insurance because they’re stupid enough to actually pay that inflated bill.





"We've every facility here for dealing with people who are rich. We can deal with a blocked purse, we can drain private accounts and in the worst eases we can perform a total cashectomy, which is total removal of all moneys from the patient."

79 posted on 11/24/2023 12:56:51 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Gaffer
... One example is birthing - a young couple having their first child and really no insurance to speak of....

About half do not have any private insurance. The births are paid for by way of Medicaid. I can't get an answer, but I doubt Medicaid is more than the dime on the dollar allowed by Medicare...... https://wisconsinwatch.org/2023/05/does-medicaid-cover-nearly-half-of-all-births-in-the-us/#:~:text=In%20Wisconsin%2C%2035%25%20of%20all,about%20everything%20happening%20in%20Wisconsin.

80 posted on 11/24/2023 1:00:25 PM PST by gloryblaze
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