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Indi Gregory, eight-month old at centre of legal battle, dies after life support switched off
Sky News ^ | November 13, 2023 | staff

Posted on 11/13/2023 9:13:53 AM PST by Morgana

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Prayers for her parents
1 posted on 11/13/2023 9:13:53 AM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Government “healthcare” at work.

The oxymoron government healthcare is actually “death protocol.”

When will we learn that government is good a one thing: KILLING?

The main reason the federal government was created by the Constitution was for defense against foreign invasion - valid purpose. And there’s no entity that’s better than defeating and KILLING invaders that the government.

In the U.S., the feds have NO constitutional authority to meddle in healthcare. Period. Does anyone care? They will If/when this starts to happen here.


2 posted on 11/13/2023 9:19:59 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Jim W N

It did happen here. He name was Terri.


3 posted on 11/13/2023 9:22:13 AM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

When you accept the premise that someone else is responsible for paying for your healthcare, you have accepted the premise that someone else gets to make your medical decisions. The harm is exacerbated because the kind of people who are drawn to administering a “public” healthcare system are often callous or sadistic by nature.


4 posted on 11/13/2023 9:25:24 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Morgana

How soon they forget.


5 posted on 11/13/2023 9:25:38 AM PST by GMThrust
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To: Morgana

Terri wasn’t the feds was it? I don’t think so. That was a state issue I believe. States and its citizens have the right to do whatever they want with healthcare. But NOT the feds.

Federal “healthcare” is “death protocol” and is a deadly disaster.


6 posted on 11/13/2023 9:25:45 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Jim W N

Some believe that states have legitimate power to forbid health care or allow the murder of people, especially unborn people. “Well, it’s up to the states!!”

States do not have that right. No entity has that right.


7 posted on 11/13/2023 9:28:19 AM PST by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: Morgana

I recall when I first heard about Terri Shiavo. I thought there is no way anyone will allow her to starve to death. They did. I still think the husband knew of the Hillsdale, Michigan case where a husband said his wife fell off a horse and struck her head and died. It was found later that he had administered a muscle relaxer that prevented all movement. The drug would dissipate in the system. But a California pathologist found a way to test for the metabolites. Yup, the husband is serving life in Michigan prison. I always thought the Shiavo husband knew of the drug, being medically trained.


8 posted on 11/13/2023 9:28:35 AM PST by healy61 (.)
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To: Morgana

May God help all concerned. Indi is with the Lord now, but those who condemned her will face a terrifying judgment unless they seek redemption through Christ.

State sponsored “health care” is actually state sponsored denial of health care. Those who have been complicit with the government take-over of medical care in this country are guilty of the same sins. They just haven’t come to fruition yet.


9 posted on 11/13/2023 9:29:56 AM PST by con-surf-ative
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To: Persevero

Individuals have that right and individuals are in charge of their local governance including their state.

Certainly the feds have NO constitutional right regarding healthcare.

If you think the feds are your friend, you’d better think again.


10 posted on 11/13/2023 9:31:17 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: healy61

Found it if anyone is interested: David Davis, Hillsdale, Michigan, killed Shannon Mohr with horse tranq. He died while still in prison.


11 posted on 11/13/2023 9:33:28 AM PST by healy61 (.)
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To: Jim W N

Individuals have the right to refuse health care. They don’t have the right to forbid me to access it.

And they do not have the right to kill their kids.


12 posted on 11/13/2023 9:35:33 AM PST by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: Persevero

Well healthcare is a state’s issue and the people of the state are in charge of their state. I think generally most people of a given state would agree with you

But the feds most certainly have NO constitutional authority over healthcare. The feds couldn’t care less what you think.

And if you don’t like the state you’re in you can always move. We have no such choice with an unconstitutional totalitarian federal government.


13 posted on 11/13/2023 9:43:03 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Morgana

It’s never been a secret that socialized medicine has as a foundational business model the elimination of the very young and the elderly, for budgetary reasons, if not for the evil ideology of socialism that promotes it. Tax drains, you know


14 posted on 11/13/2023 9:47:46 AM PST by DPMD (ua)
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To: Morgana

Please always utter the name of Killer Judge george greer as well, when speaking of Terri. He got away with it.


15 posted on 11/13/2023 9:49:23 AM PST by DPMD (ua)
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To: Jim W N

Y’all are missing the boat. The most evil thing in medicine is the emergence of the non-clinical administrators. And even those who were clinical leave bedside and become non-clinical. They have all forgotten that at bedside we are dealing with someone’s father, mother, sister, brother, son or daughter. The conversations are often gut wrenching. Delivering this news is horrifying. I can’t imagine what it would be like to babe to have to hear it as a parent.

When I was administrating I mandated that every clinical leader had to practice and go to bedside. But my brethren physicians abdicated their roles in favor of money. We allowed this to happen. I am ashamed of my profession daily but choose to fight the fight from the inside. I can’t blame those who just leave the field and do something else. But that creates the void for the sycophant physicians who value greed more than their sacred oath.


16 posted on 11/13/2023 10:10:07 AM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

“When you accept the premise that someone else is responsible for paying for your healthcare, you have accepted the premise that someone else gets to make your medical decisions. The harm is exacerbated because the kind of people who are drawn to administering a “public” healthcare system are often callous or sadistic by nature.”

Sociopaths are drawn to these jobs, and they usually have better benefits personally than those whom they supposedly serve.


17 posted on 11/13/2023 10:17:16 AM PST by Rlsau1
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To: gas_dr

All the more reason to keep healthcare decisions at the individual level as much as possible and not let the feds interfere at all with healthcare.


18 posted on 11/13/2023 11:12:38 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Morgana

UK NHS at its finest - including the judge that banned the child from going to an out of country hospital that was all ready to receive her and could possibly cure her.


19 posted on 11/13/2023 11:53:20 AM PST by SkyDancer (~Definition Of A Business Jet: A Mailing Tube For Executives ~)
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To: Jim W N

It’s not that I am advocating totalitarian fed control.

I am just denying that any government has the right to impede my health care. And I am denying that killing a child is health care. Whether he is in your womb or in the next room.


20 posted on 11/13/2023 12:00:24 PM PST by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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