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Weekly Garden Thread - October 28-November 3, 2023 [First Frost Edition]
October 28, 2023 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 10/28/2023 7:31:21 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a week Ping List. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
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1 posted on 10/28/2023 7:31:21 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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15 Frost Tolerant Vegetable Plants

Cold winter temperatures and mild frosts are ideal growing conditions for many cool season vegetables.

If you’d like to grow some cold hardy vegetables in your garden during the winter months, you’re sure to find some great options on this list.

Some of these vegetables can even withstand thick frosts and freezing temperatures.

Broccoli
Brussels Sprouts
Cabbage
Cauliflower
Kale
Spinach
Carrots
Peas
Onions
Leeks
Garlic
Turnips
Kohlrabi
Radish
Rhubarb

So there are 15 frost tolerant vegetable plants that you can grow in your garden over the cold winter months.

Some other frost resistant vegetables that you can also grow over winter are beets, arugula (rocket) and collard greens.

https://www.urbangardengal.com/frost-tolerant-vegetable-plants/


2 posted on 10/28/2023 7:36:41 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: 4everontheRight; Augie; Apple Pan Dowdy; Aevery_Freeman; ApplegateRanch; ArtDodger; AloneInMass; ...

3 posted on 10/28/2023 7:40:37 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

How timely...first frost of the year here...


4 posted on 10/28/2023 7:45:51 AM PDT by goodnesswins ( We pretend to juvote and they pretend to count the votes.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Good to know.

We’ve had an exceptionally beautiful October but it
s going to end this weekend.


5 posted on 10/28/2023 7:48:26 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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Who Is Jack Frost?

You might have heard of him, the one responsible for nipping at your nose and frosting your windows with fern-like patterns during wintertime. His name is Jack Frost, and his legend dates back centuries. So who is he?
Jack Frost Origins

There’s not one particular story that we can point to for the creation of Jack Frost, but rather a collection of stories taken from countries all over the world. In some cultures he’s considered a villain, in some hero, but in all of them he’s the personification of the winter season.

While there’s much debate over the origins of Jack Frost, many believe he originated from Scandinavian or Anglo-Saxon traditions. In one popular story, he’s the son of Kari, Norse god of the winds. In Finnish folklore, there is the legend of Frostman and Frostwoman, who control weather and must keep good conditions for the reindeer to live in. In many cultures around the world, it is common to personify things like the seasons and weather. In Japanese folklore, for example, there are stories of a Frost Man and his brother, Mist Man, who are the keepers of frost and dew.

As for the Jack Frost of today, there isn’t much reasoning as to why his name has come to be Jack, other than “Jack” was a common slang word for “man” in England during the 16th and 17 centuries.

What Does He Look Like?

Jack Frost is most often portrayed as a spritely character, and depending on where you look, he’s either a hero or a villain. Frost has been the subject of a variety of songs, stories, and movies. Dreamworks came out with Rise of the Guardians in 2012, which features Jack Frost as the main protagonist, an angsty teenager who discovers his true purpose. He’s also featured as a man in The Santa Clause 3, and plays an evil character looking to overthrow Santa. And let’s not forget the movie Jack Frost, a film about a father who dies in a car crash but magically comes back to life as a snowman to spend time with his son.

The first illustrated cartoon of the character is thought to be a political cartoon published in 1861 in Harper’s Weekly. It showed a drawing by Thomas Nast and depicted general Jack Frost freezing out the malaria that was spreading during the American Civil War. Nast was also famous for creating the image of Santa Claus that we’re familiar with today.

Now when you hear ‘The Christmas Song,’ you can think of Jack Frost, spreading frosty cheer to people all over the world.


6 posted on 10/28/2023 7:50:34 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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7 posted on 10/28/2023 7:51:42 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’ll be picking my green tomatoes today, the ripening temps end tomorrow.


8 posted on 10/28/2023 7:58:43 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
With the first frost predicted next week, besides most people (by far the only tragic reality) tomatoes can say "The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved." (Jeremiah 8:20) Yet they want to go another season.

End-Season-10-28-23


And what were the names of these which I began as seed in May and suspected were weeds (on in the foreground I am still wondering about)

Flowers-10-28-23


9 posted on 10/28/2023 8:00:25 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

No, you dont have to have a cold to drink one.........or two.

10 posted on 10/28/2023 8:04:32 AM PDT by Liz (“The only time Biden gets his hands dirty is when he’s taking cash from foreign countries." Trump)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
To link back to the Weekly Garden Thread - October 21-27, 2023
Click on this picture of hung over pumpkins crashing after an all week party!
Poof sorry image href gone!

Pollard's F/R profile page is the location of his Prepper links and Data Base and contains the Gardening Resource files.
Click anywhere on the floating book to link to his homepage!


11 posted on 10/28/2023 8:11:09 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
No frost yet and I yanked the last costa rican red pepper plants yesterday. My three long planters with lettuce had some second planting roots where I had cut off the tops. And some new seeds that were up for about two weeks. I could not dump then. So I potted up 10 large cottage cheese containers and brought them in. It remains to be seen if they will grow well. They are up against a south facing slider but this is Michigan. I had rooted basil with tremendous roots on the kitchen windowsill. They sometime keep growing until January but I dumped them yesterday. We have plenty frozen in olive oil and I just got tired of changing the eater every day and not getting much growth. It has been so overcast around here. We rejoice when we get some sun. Still picking a couple of handfuls of red raspberries. Had enough yesterday to make 4 nice breakfast crepes. I just smash the berries in a bowl and add a bit of sugar. Have not opened any of our 6 half pints of jam yet. We have cracked into one of our V8 quarts. I had it in the fridge overnight first. It just knocked our socks off! It's going to be hard to ration it out over the winter. Next year we are making twice as much. It really was our best garden even since 1984. And thanks to this thread and all who visit and share. Three great first take aways, V8, the shishito pepper sauce and the tomato bacon jam. Freezer and pantry full we are all set for winter. The colors were great this year, started fading about 4 days ago. The last of the great color are always our pawpaws. Here they are yesterday, love that lemon yellow color. Even better and brighter with some sunshine which we have not had. This is a cluster of 4 trees and a young one to the right. pawpaws2023
12 posted on 10/28/2023 8:20:36 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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In for a break & some electrolytes. Putting down a layer of wood chips in the leaf bin (on top of weed barrier), then I am tying some plastic mesh to the wire so the small leaves don’t get through (I am chopping them up with the mower). I can sit on a stool to tie the mesh, so that will be a break. After that, I will be rounding up & hauling leaves the rest of the day. The grass is a bit long so that will get cut & mixed in with the leaves - a good thing for composting.

It is rather ‘warm’ here - I am sweating like crazy & had to tie my hair up. There are a few gnats buzzing around - I hate those things ... at least it’s not a swarm, just one or two now & then.

While I’m working, I’m planning holiday recipes I want to make in my head .... some venison stews & a roasted fresh ham are the ones I am thinking about the most. I have a turkey (bought on sale) in the freezer, too. Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday - all the festivities, family & food, with no pressure for presents.

Leaves are past ‘peak’ today .... jewel-like colors are starting to fade .... still pretty, just not spectacular.

FULL MOON tonight - the “Hunter’s Moon”!


13 posted on 10/28/2023 8:27:31 AM PDT by Qiviut (If the genocide were unintentional, they would have pulled the poison vaccines, long ago.)
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To: MomwithHope

...........shishito pepper sauce sounds yummy.........


14 posted on 10/28/2023 8:28:13 AM PDT by Liz (“The only time Biden gets his hands dirty is when he’s taking cash from foreign countries." Trump)
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To: daniel1212
Daniel! Diana Called it way back when you first asked! Those are Rudebeckia Daisys (var, Gloriosa)! You will see considerable variation in the coloring from flower to flower. As you read here they are an excellent drought resistant plant, not that that is an issue where you live.

Gloriosa Daisy

15 posted on 10/28/2023 8:45:26 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: MomwithHope

Happy for your great gardening year! Thanks for that nice picture of the yellow leafed autumn Pawpaw tree!


16 posted on 10/28/2023 8:48:55 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: daniel1212

Coneflower or Black-Eyed Susan.


17 posted on 10/28/2023 8:49:48 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Thanks, Pete!


18 posted on 10/28/2023 8:50:27 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: MomwithHope; All

That’s great Fall color from the paw paws!

That Tomato Bacon Jam was a huge hit around here, too. I made some and so did two local friends. Glad you like to V-8; it is awesome stuff! I have a low basket of tomatoes to use up as well as six in the window that are still ripening.

Our Fall colors have been spectacular; I’ll post some pix when I get them uploaded.

Today I am going to chop down one of the Brussels Sprouts and see how much I get off of one 5’ stalk. They are MASSIVE this season. I grew them for a SIL, but I’ll keep some for myself - there are six tree-like stalks!

I an going to harvest outside lettuces and spinach today, then re-pot the roots and see what I can get to grow inside, just like you are. I do have grow lights, so that will help some. Spinach and lettuces in the greenhouse are coming along, but have been rather pokey - a lack of sun over here, too.

Leaves won’t be raked other than what I want to use for some mulch, but the majority blow away anyhow. Done with mowing for the season. Yay!

Beau did an overnight run to the cabin and came back with a cooler of bear meat (already vacuum sealed, thank goodness) so we are re-arranging some freezer space today and I’ll grab meat to thaw for the week. Our 1/2 hog will be here before the end of the month, too. Feeling good about a very full larder/pantry and freezers as we go into winter. :)

‘Chuck’ is back from the pasture and into the barn yard; he’s still very friendly and comes when you call. I thought he might have gone a little ‘wild’ over the summer months with all of his freedom. ;) He can graze until the last blade of grass is eaten then it’s on to hay and sweet oats and his usual apples, carrots and Milk Bone treats. ;)


19 posted on 10/28/2023 9:03:23 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Ha! And then I screwed up and just posted ‘Coneflower’ and ‘Black-Eyed Susan!’


20 posted on 10/28/2023 9:04:30 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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