Hear what Jenna Ellis said in tearful court speech

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[Dr. Franklin]

My personal theory is that the more staunch a person is, when it is safe to do so, the more likely they will fold when the chips are down.

Well, this is obviously tactical. Ellis knows she can't win at trial now in that court. So, having negotiated a plea deal, she can file a collateral attack later with the benefit of knowing what the maximum penalty is. The way the system works is that the prosecutors overcharge criminal defendants to force a plea deal. Ellis suffers a loss of face with the plea deal, but like Mike Flynn, she could win in the end. In short, our dysfunctional criminal justice system causes this. I feel sorry for her. She did nothing wrong and tried to save the Republic. If Trump returns to office, she should be nominated to be a federal judge.

[Jonty30]

Never realized that. I thought she was just demoralized. I hope you’re right on that point.

[central_va]

Republicans need to boycott all things Georgia.

[mass55th]

What part of the fact that we are living in Nazi Germany today, don’t you get?

[BlackbirdSST]

If Trump returns to office, she should be nominated to be a federal judge.

In a District that oversees GA.

[kiryandil]

She’s lucky that Fatti “What You Talkin’ ‘Bout” Willis didn’t have her necklaced by some of the George Floyd zombies from Atlanta...

[Dr. Franklin]

In a District that oversees GA.

It depends on vacancies, but Trump is rewards loyalty. He could nominated her as judge for a U.S. District Court in Ga, The United States Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit, or even SCOTUS. We need to get him back in office first for that to happen.

[Dr. Franklin]

Never realized that. I thought she was just demoralized. I hope you’re right on that point.

The whole U.S. criminal justice system now works on plea deals. The prosecutor overcharges the criminal defendant, then except in the most heinous cases, offers a plea deal. The criminal defense attorney has an ethical duty to present that deal to his/her/its client. Defense attorneys benefit from those deals because it enables them to take more cases than if they all went to trial. A bad criminal defense attorney will cut back room deals contrary to the client's instructions. It's unethical, but many will do that. Not taking the plea deal can annoy the judge, who could impose a harsher sentence if the matter goes to trial.

The plea deal is a known quantity, which also saves the defendant the expense of his/her attorney. Taking the plea deal doesn't prevent the defendant from later attacking the sufficiency of the evidence, the jurisdiction of the court, prosecutorial misconduct in withholding exculpatory evidence, etc. As with Gen. Flynn, it can avoid additional expense and a harsher penalty. Innocent people do get bullied into taking the plea deal, often.

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DesertRhino wrote:
This is why women are not trustworthy in high stakes moments. They will fold and take the deal, and then cry like a girl, twirling their pigtails so you won’t be mean anymore.

And how many men have folded the same way when they became targets? Don’t forget Michael Cohen who once claimed he would take a bullet for Trump and ended up a turncoat. And there was John Kelly. I remember thinking that it seemed every week there was another Trump appointee accusing Trump of heinous doings.

[Jim W N]

Doubt that she would get life in prison but whatever it takes I guess.

[TBP]

4 people have pled guilty in the Georgia case so far, 2 of them are men, would you say the same things about them as you have Jenna Ellis.

Of course not. It's about Jenna.

[TBP]

I don’t believe she’s guilty of anything.

[Kazan]

She ought to reimburse anyone that contributed to her legal defense fund.

[Reverend Wright]

Yes.

Flawed from the start, unfortunately.

“A Tyranny, if you can keep it.”

[del griffith]

It’s all here. https://www.scribd.com/document/666795320/23sc188947-Criminal-Indictment64

[freeandfreezing]

May I be so bold as to inquire exactly what supposed crimes these people are being charged with?

As far as I can tell being Republicans.

[del griffith]

Then she’s a Christian liar.

[freeandfreezing]

Taking the plea deal doesn't prevent the defendant from later attacking the sufficiency of the evidence, the jurisdiction of the court, prosecutorial misconduct in withholding exculpatory evidence, etc.

That's not true in general. A plea deal almost always ends any opportunity the defendant has to raise any issues or defenses.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

How about we start by moving the All Star Game out of Georgia?

[srmanuel]

like I said, it’s really easy to tell other people what to do, when you aren’t facing 20 years in prison, financial ruin and you still have decades to live, when presented with an opportunity to put it all behind you and go on with your life.