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CDC and Doctors Say Fewer Pregnant Women Getting Vaccines
Epoch Times ^ | 10/18/2023 | Jack Phillips

Posted on 10/19/2023 8:32:26 AM PDT by fireman15

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To: Little Pig
The Flu vacc isn't all that useful for most anyway.

My wife was a nurse and department head at multilevel care facilities that lost dozens of patients and residents during bad flu seasons.

Flu shots are a waste of time for most younger people. But they have been valuable to the elderly and people with compromised immune systems in the past. I certainly have no desire to get one currently, and I have seven grandchildren with a great grandchild on the way so I am not a spring chicken.

21 posted on 10/19/2023 9:01:57 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: cgbg
Once you have gotten burned you get super cautious.

I like your analogy.

22 posted on 10/19/2023 9:03:45 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fireman15

He said that “now all vaccines are lumped together as ‘bad.’”
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That’s because Big Pharma wants easy money by short-circuiting vaccine development. mNRA will be the fast and dirty way to make vaccines until the practice is stopped. Big Pharma will continue to use the ‘Warp Speed’ approach to increase their obscene profit margins regardless of its negative downsides.


23 posted on 10/19/2023 9:04:59 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: fireman15
Well DUH!.... why would they want to kill their little babies??? /sarc

https://slaynews.com/news/8-year-old-vaccine-poster-child-dies-sudden-heart-attack

24 posted on 10/19/2023 9:08:22 AM PDT by high info voter (Delivery )
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To: Hieronymus
Beyond a very short list, they shouldn't be required for school, and I would favour simply making them available through the school for those who haven't bothered with a doctor.

I agree completely. The reason I had so many vaccinations over the years was to help protect against biohazards that it was possible that I could have been exposed to as a Hazmat team leader.

25 posted on 10/19/2023 9:08:59 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fhayek

“1/4 were ‘very hesitant’”

Disturbing. That means they didn’t want it, but were intimidated into it.

Which as an anti vaxxer, I get. When you’re told that doctors won’t see you, or your baby, because of it is intimidating.


26 posted on 10/19/2023 9:09:42 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: metmom

Gene edits are always a good idea to introduce while you are building a fetus inside. /s


27 posted on 10/19/2023 9:12:39 AM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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To: Celerity

What has happened is that the medical profession is in violation of the Nuremberg Code when they use duress to induce folks to take vaccines.

There is no walking back from that—it is a permanent stain.

“The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential.

This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent;

should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion;

and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision.

This latter element requires that before the acceptance of an affirmative decision by the experimental subject there should be made known to him the nature, duration, and purpose of the experiment; the method and means by which it is to be conducted; all inconveniences and hazards reasonably to be expected; and the effects upon his health or person which may possibly come from his participation in the experiment.

The duty and responsibility for ascertaining the quality of the consent rests upon each individual who initiates, directs, or engages in the experiment. It is a personal duty and responsibility which may not be delegated to another with impunity.”


28 posted on 10/19/2023 9:14:40 AM PDT by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: Bob434
Can't even imagine the horror and shame/guilt that would come with getting a vaccine while pregnant, and having something seriously wrong with the child when born-

My cousin's 13-year-old boy who had always been very healthy and active dropped on the playfield, stopped breathing, and had to be revived with CPR. He had a stroke after getting the Covid shots and now has permanent brain damage.

The vax proponents here claim that this type of thing has always happened to kids. But before the Covid shots this was so rare that most of us had never heard of it. Now when I tell people they often tell me that they know of some other kid who either died suddenly or had a similar experience after getting the shots. The actual incidents of this type of thing are being carefully withheld by the media, big tech, and the government all of whom believe that by controlling the narrative that no one will notice.

29 posted on 10/19/2023 9:18:54 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fhayek

Congratulations! Boy or girl?


30 posted on 10/19/2023 9:26:53 AM PDT by packagingguy
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To: fireman15
He said that "now all vaccines are lumped together as 'bad."

Well, considering that they are now going to be using the MNRA model for the new flu shots, the flu shots are no longer attractive. People no longer trust the "experts". I believe that, that is a sensible attitude.

31 posted on 10/19/2023 9:29:45 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: fhayek
She never got vaxxed. It cost her her career as a nurse, but she refused to turn her children into Guinea pigs.

A good Mother.

32 posted on 10/19/2023 9:32:41 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: fireman15

Are the other vaxxes important for public health...?


33 posted on 10/19/2023 9:36:36 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: packagingguy

A boy. 9 lbs 5 oz. Mother and child doing fine.


34 posted on 10/19/2023 9:51:51 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: Glad2bnuts

Pfizer tests on preggers with the mRNA had a 82% kill rate of the baby — right up there with planned parenthood. Sounds almost deliberate.
For years flu vaccines have had less than 40% effective rate, sometimes as low as 10%.

That said, both of these vaccines are either woefully ineffective and obvious money grabs or simply virtue signaling. But, many other vaccines are quite effective. Don’t lump them all just because the providers are corrupt.


35 posted on 10/19/2023 9:52:57 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: mewzilla
Are the other vaxxes important for public health...?

Some are, but obviously not all. It depends where you live, how old you are, and if you are vulnerable to certain types of maladies. The unprecedented number of people being allowed to enter the country without any medical evaluation at all... from place where deadly diseases run rampant is changing the equation. Just as the public is rightfully losing confidence in the people and agencies that are supposed to be keeping us safe, we have challenges coming that are going to tax our healthcare system in ways not currently being planned for.

36 posted on 10/19/2023 10:09:30 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fireman15

Wow- sorry to hear that- He’s got a tough road ahead of him now- for sure-

We had a relative get the shots - he was younger, around 50, they tried blaming it on covid- but while deaths at 50 aren’t rare- and do happen,
I suspect the shots might have played a role too- maybe even the sole cause- but of course we can’t prove anything-

I really hope evidence comes forward showing that yes, people were dying, people were having strokes, people were having heart problems etc- and that the msm has the guts to report on it- but I’m not holding my breath


37 posted on 10/19/2023 10:18:14 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: BigFreakinToad

My granddaughter refused also. Her baby is thriving. Happiest most content child I ever saw.


38 posted on 10/19/2023 10:34:37 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru Him all things are possible.)
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To: fhayek

Holy smokes he’s big. Maybe he’ll be a football player.


39 posted on 10/19/2023 10:35:15 AM PDT by packagingguy
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To: fireman15
"We are meeting more resistance than I ever remember," Dr. Neil Silverman, a maternal-fetal medicine specialist at UCLA Health, told NBC. "We didn't get this kind of pushback on this scale before the pandemic." He said that "now all vaccines are lumped together as 'bad.'"

Maybe a few of these expectant mothers have friends who lost their unborn children after being "vaccinated" and are now skeptical.

40 posted on 10/19/2023 10:46:55 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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