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EVs are a solution only for certain niches. They have a plethora of problematic issues. One of the worst is that once a virtue signaling consumer plunks down their money the value begins dropping at a much faster rate than with a traditional vehicle.
1 posted on 09/24/2023 10:21:05 PM PDT by fireman15
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Another issue is that if the batteries are stored with either too much or too little charge... they deteriorate quickly and the damage cannot be reversed. The most expensive component in an electric car is the battery. Once it is shot... in many cases the vehicle can be left with almost no value at all.


2 posted on 09/24/2023 10:26:44 PM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You'e Welcome.)
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Oversized electric golf cart fanbois are not pleased.

They do not own one of the wretched things of course, just frantically boost them.

Oh wait, he go the zot, didn’t he?


3 posted on 09/24/2023 10:36:46 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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Used to be brakes, water pumps, then timing chains, serpentine belts, a/c’s but it was in the 100’s for inevitable total cost of ownership. Even transmission, especially for Fords, could dependably need major rebuild or replacement at some point. But that was 3-4k.

When these electrical pig-in-a-pokes need a new battery it will be a whole new family meeting. The emergency/ car maintenance fund won’t keep up. And the Federal Climate Emergency subsidies will be gone and back to their rightful place financing liberal elites’ dwellings in the Hamptons and pedo-(va)cationing.

Things that can’tgo on forever, Don’t.


4 posted on 09/24/2023 10:37:17 PM PDT by epluribus_2
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Long ago I bought a nice used car from a used car dealer who faked a limp. Nice tires on the car, very new. The car that we got came with worn out tires.

Now they’re likely doing that with batteries on EVs.


5 posted on 09/24/2023 10:37:46 PM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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Oh yes, let me buy a used EV just in time to replace the battery which costs more than the car is worth.


6 posted on 09/24/2023 10:40:55 PM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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The resale value of my electric car is of no concern to me. Zero. I don’t plan to sell it or trade it at any time in the foreseeable future.


8 posted on 09/24/2023 10:44:18 PM PDT by webheart
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Couple of good comments at the site...

1. mikelowe2013. “People are slowly waking up to the fact that resale values for EVs as mileage increases will approach zero, because everyone will refuse to pay for a new battery to be installed.” (POF - I’m surprised the article does not mention this)

2. By bnice2000. “Quite simply they have run out of virtue-seekers.”


12 posted on 09/24/2023 10:52:06 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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Instead of this EV and renewable energy BS, we should have been spending our money on hardening our grid against EMPs.


18 posted on 09/24/2023 11:14:58 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” -Matthew 5:9)
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im gonna wait until they are giving them away

and then i will say

no thanks


21 posted on 09/24/2023 11:33:06 PM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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Then there’s THIS:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4184721/posts

And the older the battery is, the more likely it’s going to set itself on fire.


24 posted on 09/25/2023 12:21:58 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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25 posted on 09/25/2023 12:36:47 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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I am so happy I got rid of my hybrid a couple months ago, at the time they gave me more in trade than I paid for it.


26 posted on 09/25/2023 12:38:59 AM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected. No Baggage, No Drama.)
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Most new EVs go either to Business/Fleet purchasers, or rich, virtue signallers. Neither sector is interested in buying second hand EVs.

The people I know who bought the first EV's now have internal combustion cars and only a golf carts with a lithium batteries...

28 posted on 09/25/2023 1:08:46 AM PDT by GOPJ (President Trump: ‘How much of a kickback does Crooked Joe Biden get?’ (ransom payment Iran))
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I have the car I need and like. But if someone gave me $30000 that I had to spend on an automobile. I would buy a plug-in hybrid. These have smaller and lighter batteries. Smaller ranges on electric. 40-100 miles.

With these you do not need to buy a $2000 home charging station. Instead, you plug it into a 220 volt outlet at night and whenever you are home. This 70 mile range will get you around town and to your job. And you always have your gasoline powered engine in reserve and for long trips.
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With an electric range of 44 miles and an EPA rating of 52 mpg combined with the gas engine in use, the Prius Prime is simply one of the most efficient cars you can get at its price. A 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine, two electric motors and a lithium-ion battery pack produce 220 horsepower. Front-wheel drive and a continuously variable automatic transmission come standard.


32 posted on 09/25/2023 1:47:50 AM PDT by dennisw (Never attribute to incompetence & stupidity, that which is adequately explained by malice)
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A waste of time and resources.


39 posted on 09/25/2023 2:57:42 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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Interesting stats at this link...

https://ampo.org/electric-vehicles-are-out-of-reach-for-most-u-s-consumers/


48 posted on 09/25/2023 4:08:54 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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Used EVs price go down but repair cost have skyrocketed on these POS.


52 posted on 09/25/2023 4:21:28 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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I’m not “skeptical, who will want to wait”. I know EVs are enslavement and not in my best interest and I never want one. I will keep our gasoline vehicles as long as possible. The limiting factor will be when the government bans the sale of gasoline.

Nice thing about gasoline is if 20 years in the future there are fewer gasoline stations, I can carry a bunch of 5 gallon cans to augment my range.


62 posted on 09/25/2023 5:09:19 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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Hey maybe go of courses can use them as the glorified golfcarts they are. Sound systems, infotainment systems, air conditioning. A little heaven for the grass though.


64 posted on 09/25/2023 5:34:33 AM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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It is said by various streams of "free" economic thought that "the market corrects."

Given the massive subsidies to the Climate Change™ movement and its idiotic "zero carbon" and "zero emissions" claptrap, one is seeing "the market" -- thousands of "free" individual buying decisions -- setting the reality of the EV market, used and new alike.

From the metaphor of moral philosopher Adam Smith forward, the notion that an "invisible hand" may be seen at work in a marketplace has a long history of proving notions of free market and market corrections, when confronting enforced markets and skewed values.

It is important to recall that liberty is, in part, about markets and consumers as well as other modes of societal interaction. Ergo, moral.

65 posted on 09/25/2023 5:47:28 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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