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Evidence the universe might not be expanding - Could we be wrong about everything?
IAI News ^ | 25 Jul, 2023 | Tim Andersen

Posted on 07/26/2023 10:33:46 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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1 posted on 07/26/2023 10:33:46 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: Red Badger; SunkenCiv

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2 posted on 07/26/2023 10:34:31 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber
Just off the top of my head there are many theories and this article points out evidence for and against each being correct. The competing theories from my recall:

Open Universe or Closed Universe - does the universe expand forever or eventually collapse due to gravity.

Expanding Universe or Static Universe and is there expanding space-time - Is the universe expanding or is it essentially fixed with unknown things that make it look like it is expanding. And is the fabric of space expanding.

3 posted on 07/26/2023 10:35:28 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Only God knows.


4 posted on 07/26/2023 10:40:04 AM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: MtnClimber

You are a fluke of the Universe
You have no right to be here

And whether you can hear it or not
The Universe is laughing behind your back


5 posted on 07/26/2023 10:41:40 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MtnClimber

One of the craziest things over these last few crazy years has been watching physics at both ends (subatomic and cosmological) completely fall apart.


6 posted on 07/26/2023 10:43:58 AM PDT by Thurifer the Censer (If you can see the altar, there's not enough smoke)
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To: MtnClimber

Wrong again? Maybe stop funding the pop interpreters of settled science...they are always saying things like “we know”, “ truly” and other assertions of certitude.. they need to say something like, “ as far as we THINK we know it might be that blah, blah, blah...but we could be incorrect...” Time to turn off the false narrative spigots..


7 posted on 07/26/2023 10:44:22 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: HighSierra5
Only God knows.

The more we know, the more we realize the things we don't know. So I think you are right.

8 posted on 07/26/2023 10:45:46 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Yes we could be.


9 posted on 07/26/2023 10:48:02 AM PDT by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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To: MtnClimber
Could we be wrong about everything?

Don't pose that question to your ex-wife (for those who have them). I can tell you in advance what the answer will be.

10 posted on 07/26/2023 10:48:44 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: MtnClimber
I am now faking data to show that the Universe is being slowed by Climate Change. See the graph below.
I expect a Nobel Prize in Physics by next year at the latest.


11 posted on 07/26/2023 10:49:24 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: MtnClimber

Everything?!?
.
Yuppers
But We are getting Closer to the TRUTH.


12 posted on 07/26/2023 10:50:04 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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Fr. George Lemaître independently in 1927 had used Einstein’s field equation to predict that the universe should be expanding (or shrinking).

That's where we went wrong. Gravity stretches and compresses space/time. What we're seeing isn't necessarily an expanding Universe driven by a Big Bang... It's a pulsing, moving, stretching, and even in extreme cases possibly even knotting itself Universe. Constantly being shredded by black holes and recycled via perturbation theories virtual particle pairs...

Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

13 posted on 07/26/2023 10:50:36 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: RoosterRedux

If a man is alone in the woods, and his wife isn’t around to hear him, is he still wrong?


14 posted on 07/26/2023 10:51:16 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MtnClimber
I tend to view space/universe, as nothingness with galaxies floating around in it.

If it's expanding, what is it expanding into?

If it's not expanding, what lies beyond the furthest edge? Is there just a big wall, and the universe is just contained in a big box?

I doubt we will ever know....

15 posted on 07/26/2023 10:52:24 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: RoosterRedux

My EX is renting a room in a single wide trailer out in the desert.
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I’m not bitter and I wish her well.


16 posted on 07/26/2023 10:52:38 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: Thurifer the Censer
Physics hasn't gone anywhere.
Our understanding of it, well, that's another matter.

The attempted deliberate undermining of "science" -- often driven by political objectives -- continues to accelerate. Then again, these are two very different things: Science vs. Political Science, both of which have been around for a long time. The political goal is, as with so many other terms (e.g., "immigrant"/"illegal alien"; "gender"/"sex" to mention but two), to conflate the terms and sow confusion, confusion being a necessary element to achieve a much larger political objective: replace our Republic with a totalitarian government). It all fits if you think about it.

17 posted on 07/26/2023 10:55:01 AM PDT by glennaro (Never give up ... never give in ... never surrender ... and enjoy every minute of doing so.)
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18 posted on 07/26/2023 10:56:01 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Jesus is LORD and Savior! And Donald Trump is President of the United States of America.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
I tend to view space/universe, as nothingness with galaxies floating around in it. If it's expanding, what is it expanding into? If it's not expanding, what lies beyond the furthest edge? Is there just a big wall, and the universe is just contained in a big box?

Yep, very confusing. Is the universe flat? Could we fall over the edge?

19 posted on 07/26/2023 10:56:27 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Leaning Right

I am sure global warming is causing clumps hydrogen gas to undergo thermonuclear fusion in our galaxy and that we are harming other galaxies the same way, faster than the speed of light.


20 posted on 07/26/2023 10:56:38 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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