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1 posted on 07/20/2023 7:36:57 AM PDT by Red Badger
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Ingenious !

lets deplete the worlds water . No one knows where it came from or how to produce more of it, and water is the most precious substance on earth and the least respected. But since we are so much smarter than nature and so far above nature, let's outsmart the laws of physics and destroy our beautiful blue planet and turn it "green" so the idealists can feel good about themselves

2 posted on 07/20/2023 7:44:55 AM PDT by KTM rider (Be Alert Stay Calm Think Clearly Act Decisively )
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Clean?
Ecologically sustainable?
Low cost?
Using cobalt?

How stupid do they think I am?

3 posted on 07/20/2023 7:46:06 AM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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"Extracting a Clean Fuel From Water..."
4 posted on 07/20/2023 7:46:40 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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Cobalt mainly comes from the Congo, and is 80% controlled by China. Good luck scaling this boondoggle up to commercial production without paying through the nose for the “green hydrogen.”


7 posted on 07/20/2023 7:49:28 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: Red Badger
Clean?
Ecologically sustainable?
Low cost?
Using cobalt?

How stupid do they think I am?

8 posted on 07/20/2023 7:53:02 AM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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This might be a useful process, especially if it is scalable.

Now, just need a cheap and easy way to store the hydrogen... Perhaps we could combine it with carbon...

9 posted on 07/20/2023 7:57:04 AM PDT by marktwain
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"A plentiful supply of clean energy is lurking in plain sight."

I'll probably be in production in about 2 weeks.

12 posted on 07/20/2023 8:08:45 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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The new extraction process is described as a more efficient means of electrolysis, which has been around for ages for splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen.

The water molecule can’t be split into hydrogen without supplying energy. It’s the opposite of burning hydrogen as a fuel which releases energy and produces harmless water.

The long-term plan seems to be that solar cells can be used to run the electrolysis and create hydrogen, which can be stored and distributed to fueling sites for hydrogen-powered vehicles.


14 posted on 07/20/2023 8:13:57 AM PDT by cymbeline
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Process requires Cobalt.

here’s the world’s top sources of Cobalt:

Democratic Republic of Congo. Mine production: 130,000 MT. ...
Russia. Mine production: 8,900 MT. ...
Australia. Mine production: 5,900 MT. ...
Canada. Mine production: 3,900 MT. ...
Philippines. Mine production: 3,800 MT. ...
Cuba. Mine production: 3,800 MT. ...
Papua New Guinea. ...
Madagascar.

And China either owns outright or controls most of the Cobalt mines in the Congo.


21 posted on 07/20/2023 9:05:03 AM PDT by Wuli
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Interesting, but this will not overcome the laws of thermal dynamics.

The hydrogen fuel cycle is less than 50% efficient, meaning that given 1 unit of electrical power used to create hydrogen, you get less than 50% of the work done with even the most efficient hydrogen fuel technologies. Stated another way, you get less than half the work done as you would have gotten if just using the electricity to run an electric motor directly.

Most all hydrogen generated today is a bi-product of petroleum refining, FYI.

Hydrogen has other big problems, too. It goes boom, boom. Remember the Hindenburg? Hydrogen atoms are so tiny it leaks out of containment vessels very easily. When it mixes with other gasses it becomes highly corrosive, as well.


33 posted on 07/20/2023 10:17:28 AM PDT by Sparticus (Primary the Tuesday group!)
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Look at the names of the researchers...

“by Lina Chong, Guoping Gao, Jianguo Wen, Haixia Li, Haiping Xu, Zach Green, Joshua D. Sugar, A. Jeremy Kropf, Wenqian Xu, Xiao-Min Lin, Hui Xu, Lin-Wang Wang and Di-Jia Liu,”


35 posted on 07/20/2023 11:19:13 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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More Fake News from the government. All of the words in it are probably true, but it fails to emphasize that even if the electrolyzing process could get to be 100% efficient, you still get no more energy from burning the hydrogen than it took to extract it. They’ll never get close to 100%. Even then, you also will always get way less after it’s extracted it due to compressing, storing, delivering it to the user, and using it as an energy source.


41 posted on 07/20/2023 3:35:45 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The power of the press is not in what it includes, rather, it's in that which is omitted.)
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