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Majority of Americans Believe ‘Climate Change’ Hoax but Oppose Ending Fossil Fuels
PJ Media ^ | 7/1/2023 | Catherine Salgado

Posted on 07/02/2023 8:15:27 AM PDT by Signalman

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1 posted on 07/02/2023 8:15:27 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman
While climate alarmists’ predictions have been consistently and wildly wrong for 50 years now...

All else is dross...

2 posted on 07/02/2023 8:18:22 AM PDT by GOPJ (BUD LIGHT - QUEER BEER - - - NOT WELCOME AT ANY 4TH OF JULY GATHERING.)
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To: Signalman

I’ve alway said that the realization the costs/consequences of the green agenda would be the death of that agenda.
You have noticed how diligently the greenies work to obscure the true costs of their agenda?


3 posted on 07/02/2023 8:21:28 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Signalman

Lots of dismaying info in this article. There is a tiny glimmer of hope: “Support for ending gas-powered cars and trucks is 7 percentage points lower than it was two years ago.”

This is dismaying: only 45% say they would feel upset if gas-powered cars were phased out.

I’d hazard a guess that the 55% who would NOT feel upset have never had to live with an EV.

What really needs to happen is a national education program as to why the “green” dream is a an impossibility.


4 posted on 07/02/2023 8:22:08 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else.)
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To: Signalman

I don’t believe in climate change but agree that reusable energy (yesterdays term for “sustainable energy”) is a laudable goal. But the tech isn’t there yet to transition and transitioning (out of the gutter ya filthy pervs) to these weaker reusables while ignoring nuclear is a disaster waiting to happen. (And already has in many places)


5 posted on 07/02/2023 8:26:14 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: Signalman

Given that the truth is largely suppressed and actual ‘science’ is prohibited from the public square, the extent of ignorance is not surprising.


6 posted on 07/02/2023 8:26:47 AM PDT by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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To: Signalman

In answering polls today, responders are more likely to give answers that won’t get them in trouble. In other words, lie. Wokeness includes a reign of terror that has suppressed free speech. That’s why I never respond to polls, since not every topic of a poll is a hill to die on. The free expression of ideas is far behind us.


7 posted on 07/02/2023 8:27:26 AM PDT by Spok (“I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore!”)
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To: Skywise

I don’t believe in climate change but agree that reusable energy (yesterdays term for “sustainable energy”) is a laudable goal.
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Sure.... just makes sure that the entire scope of the implications for the alternative(s) are understood and included when the evaluation is done. So far, I haven’t seen any ‘alternatives’ that aren’t at least as bad as what they are trying to replace....


8 posted on 07/02/2023 8:43:09 AM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: GOPJ

If only people would consider ‘climate change’ from the perspective of a Neanderthal, instead of recent weather history, they would see it’s actually cooler now than when Neanderthals first roamed the Earth.


9 posted on 07/02/2023 8:44:45 AM PDT by RideForever (Damn, another dangling par .....)
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To: Skywise

“I don’t believe in climate change but agree that reusable energy (yesterdays term for “sustainable energy”) is a laudable goal. But the tech isn’t there yet to transition and transitioning (out of the gutter ya filthy pervs) to these weaker reusables while ignoring nuclear is a disaster waiting to happen. (And already has in many places)”

The desire of the people behind this is not about climate or energy. It’s about destroying Western civilization. This is because we’ve been doing the logical thing for two thousand years and we aren’t living in a communist utopia. Therefore, we have to destroy what’s here and (a merical happens) we’ll be living in a communist utopia.


10 posted on 07/02/2023 8:53:22 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: Signalman

They are geo-engineering effects to fool people into believing in climate change. Some people need a little nudging, some are just ignorant and fall for the fake science and whatever the teevee tells them.


11 posted on 07/02/2023 9:09:46 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Signalman

The latest burr up the greenies’ butts: states and cities want to start charging EV owners more for the use of roads. Seems they all believe their EVs have zero impact on our environment and road system (ignoring of course the strip-mining for battery components or the batteries themselves or the need to generate electricity to charge those batteries).


12 posted on 07/02/2023 9:10:28 AM PDT by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: CatOwner

Many see EVs not as a solution, but just as a means of getting rid of personal transportation, period.


13 posted on 07/02/2023 9:12:02 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Signalman
For the umpteenth time there's nothing wrong with our Modern Warm Period. Let it play out. In fact, enjoy it while you can. It's the cooling periods that are the bummers.


14 posted on 07/02/2023 9:12:31 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The most easily transmitted and fungible form of energy is electrical energy. If abundant and cheap, that is the power delivery system of the future.

But something stands in the way, an abiding belief on the part of “green” environmentalists that electrical energy should be neither cheap nor abundant, and both wind and solar suit this frame of thinking exactly. Dams that produce hydroelectric power are relatively cheap and highly reliable, but the localities are sometimes located far from the point of consumption, and the presence of the dam “might” impact the life cycles of various forms of creatures in the wild. So the dams have to be blown up, and the hydroelectric power potential destroyed in the process.

The burning of hydrocarbon fuels to drive generators that produce electrical power are in fact pretty darned efficient, and can be located in close proximity with the point of consumption, thus reducing long transmission lines from the generating plant to the consumer. But there is some mythical belief that burning hydrocarbon fuels is causing some negative impact on the environment, just how is never fully explored or explained. There actually is no such thing as “fossil fuel”, almost all hydrocarbon compounds are formed by abiotic means, and the very simplest of them all, methane, was present before the earth was even formed, and until life was established on earth, giving rise to organisms that could change carbon dioxide and water into carbohydrates and free oxygen, methane remained pretty much in its original state. In the presence of oxygen, methane burns, forming a goodly quantity of heat, carbon dioxide and water.


15 posted on 07/02/2023 9:42:18 AM PDT by alloysteel (Take back the rainbow. Its use by LGBTQ is cultural misappropriation.)
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To: Signalman

Life on Earth is in balance. Humans, being carbon based, cannot make the atmosphere uninhabitable by releasing carbon energy, that once came from other living organisms.

Humans can cause pollution and ruin the drinking water. We can irresponsibly farm the land and cause that land to become barren. Humans can kill entire species of animals by hunting, or wipe out insects through deforestation. We know these things to be true, as we’ve done them. But, we cannot ruin the atmosphere by burning oil and coal. Not if we burned all the worlds reserves of it all off in one day would the atmosphere be ruined and the Earth heat up to uninhabitable temperatures.

It takes an outside force to alter the Earth’s atmosphere to the levels that modern climate scientists proclaim will happen through oil burning, such as a massive asteroid strike that wiped out the dinosaurs. Or, an internal geologic force such as massive volcanic activity that caused the largest planetary extinction that we know of. This volcanic activity lasted for hundreds of thousands of years.

That’s what it takes, not simply burning trifle amounts of oil and coal, which really is laughable in amounts considering what the Earth can spit out in volcanoes. Scientists know the history of these extinctions, they know the length of time it took to happen, so they know what they say today about climate change is a lie and a hoax...but....funding.


16 posted on 07/02/2023 10:01:52 AM PDT by KobraKai
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To: Signalman

Majority of Americans are Stupid but not that Stupid


17 posted on 07/02/2023 10:03:38 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: DugwayDuke

My good FRiend, we may quarrel over the shots and pandemic, but we stand shoulder to shoulder here.

I’ll go a step further…the BIGGEST group of folks who will suffer with EVs are the poor and people living in cities/in apartments. Assuming they can afford these white liberal feel-good enviro-disasters (himt: they can’t), where the heck are they going to recharge? Even affluent apartment complexes haven’t enough chargers - I know of people who have to jack-in at Whole Foods overnight.

Single mothers, wait staff, hourly employees…fossil fuels and the ICE and these items’ supporters are pro-liberty, pro-minority and pro-poor.

People pushing EVs are elitist affluent POSs…or is that PsOS? Either way, I hope they choke on their charging cords.


18 posted on 07/02/2023 10:08:35 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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DoodleBob wrote: “My good FRiend, we may quarrel over the shots and pandemic, but we stand shoulder to shoulder here.”

I feel no animosity towards you because of our differences in opinion. I’ve always felt we have more in common than otherwise.

DoodleBob wrote: “People pushing EVs are elitist affluent POSs…or is that PsOS? Either way, I hope they choke on their charging cords.”

The coastal regions and the big cities are the strongholds driving democrat policies. The elitists and affluent living there see no need to own a car. They uber or fly anywhere they travel. They have no concept of why the rest of us wouldn’t want an EV.


19 posted on 07/02/2023 10:25:28 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
re. "...only 45% say they would feel upset if gas-powered cars were phased out"

I wonder how many of those live in cities, take the bus everywhere, and have no desire to own a car.

20 posted on 07/02/2023 10:33:03 AM PDT by ken in texas
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