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To: Signalman

Lots of dismaying info in this article. There is a tiny glimmer of hope: “Support for ending gas-powered cars and trucks is 7 percentage points lower than it was two years ago.”

This is dismaying: only 45% say they would feel upset if gas-powered cars were phased out.

I’d hazard a guess that the 55% who would NOT feel upset have never had to live with an EV.

What really needs to happen is a national education program as to why the “green” dream is a an impossibility.


4 posted on 07/02/2023 8:22:08 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The most easily transmitted and fungible form of energy is electrical energy. If abundant and cheap, that is the power delivery system of the future.

But something stands in the way, an abiding belief on the part of “green” environmentalists that electrical energy should be neither cheap nor abundant, and both wind and solar suit this frame of thinking exactly. Dams that produce hydroelectric power are relatively cheap and highly reliable, but the localities are sometimes located far from the point of consumption, and the presence of the dam “might” impact the life cycles of various forms of creatures in the wild. So the dams have to be blown up, and the hydroelectric power potential destroyed in the process.

The burning of hydrocarbon fuels to drive generators that produce electrical power are in fact pretty darned efficient, and can be located in close proximity with the point of consumption, thus reducing long transmission lines from the generating plant to the consumer. But there is some mythical belief that burning hydrocarbon fuels is causing some negative impact on the environment, just how is never fully explored or explained. There actually is no such thing as “fossil fuel”, almost all hydrocarbon compounds are formed by abiotic means, and the very simplest of them all, methane, was present before the earth was even formed, and until life was established on earth, giving rise to organisms that could change carbon dioxide and water into carbohydrates and free oxygen, methane remained pretty much in its original state. In the presence of oxygen, methane burns, forming a goodly quantity of heat, carbon dioxide and water.


15 posted on 07/02/2023 9:42:18 AM PDT by alloysteel (Take back the rainbow. Its use by LGBTQ is cultural misappropriation.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
re. "...only 45% say they would feel upset if gas-powered cars were phased out"

I wonder how many of those live in cities, take the bus everywhere, and have no desire to own a car.

20 posted on 07/02/2023 10:33:03 AM PDT by ken in texas
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