Posted on 05/21/2023 8:46:48 PM PDT by Pol-92064
Divorce usually isn’t a good idea, and that’s especially true of a nearly 250-year-old continental nation.
The notion of a national breakup has long simmered as a fringe argument, but it is increasingly popular in certain precincts of the political right and has gained at least some traction with partisans of both sides. A recent survey by the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia found that about 50 percent of Donald Trump voters and 40 percent of Joe Biden voters agreed to some extent with the proposition that the country should split up, with either red or blue states seceding.
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There is no uniting with those that want people to serve the state for their personal benefit.
What an ignorant headline, a perfect non-sequitur.
Deo Vindice, Rich.
Go dream up another foreign war with your neo-con pals.
We need the navy to patrol the seas in the world to keep it safe for commerce. Otherwise, you’re right.
There is no way to break up the country state by state.
If/when we have Civil War II it won’t be between the states. It’ll be between urban areas vs. rural.
Take Texas for example. Austin, San Antonio, Houston and the DFW area will be the enemy no-go zones. The rest of Texas will be declared freedom loving conservative areas.
The word I’m referring to is Balkanization.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkanization
“It will be beneficial to break up the USA...”
It would be beneficial to our enemies, foreign and domestic. And when they are done with the initial breakup, they will come after the parts they didn’t get. If we don’t have what it takes to hold on to the whole thing, we still won’t have what it takes to hold on to what we have left.
On the other hand, I wouldn’t mind having a look at, as appropriate, repealing the Enabling Acts that made certain territories States and turning them back into Territories.
While it might be amusing to watch the blue states sink down into a toilet of their own making, the problem is that ultimately, they would take us down with them. And if not, they would eventually move to the red states, and again, take them down with their voting policies. Liberals need to be fought and stopped, there just is no other way.
“Besides, would the rest of the country really be willing to watch a state of 29 million people that represents the ninth-largest economy in the world go its own way? Simply say goodbye to a place that accounts for almost 40 percent of the country’s oil production, about 25 percent of its natural gas production, 10 percent of its manufacturing and 20 percent of its exports, more than any other state? Bid adieu to the country’s largest transportation network and 11 deep-water ports, including the Port of Houston, one of the largest in the world and the busiest in the U.S. in terms of foreign waterborne tonnage? No country that retains an ounce of rationality and self-respect would let such an economic jewel and powerhouse slip away.”
Ok, If that is true, then maybe they should show such a place it’s due respect now.
It’s never going to happen especially in our lifetime.
What about California? With its warts, they still provide more tax revenue then they get back. Mississippi would be Africa without the 50 states. Alabama, Louisiana, Arkansas, among others would die on the vine. Texas, Florida, Alaska, California, and some others would possibly survive.
We don’t need to break it up, just go back to the original Federalism system this country started out with.
I like the general idea, but its’ not possible, since we are all mixed together. As in Dylan’s song “Tangled Up & Blue (or Red). Everyone wants the other party to leave first.
This is from more than 6 months ago.
In this regard, I fear the die has long been cast. The result will be adverse for the USA and its citizenry, but it could be long term beneficial to the American nation and its people.
I believe we are mirroring the pre-civil war era.
Decades of political posturing with the illusion of maintain a balance of free states vs slave with the admittance of each new state; each side wanted to gain overwhelming control of the federal government.
That desire for control didn’t go away with the secession of the South. A battle was coming... it was just a matter of time.
In our current time, that control is being implemented with illegal immigration instead of adding states; the right is doing nothing to maintain the balance
Even if (somehow) a national divorce could happen, a battle to cripple each separate nation’s economies would certainly happen in short order. With the world situation currently, it would be an unequal battle; other western nations would immediately implemented sanctions against the non-Washington control country.
There would be boycotts, there would be embargos. Money would be seized, banking denied.
We are dealing with Trotskyite world-wide thinking. Their revolution HAS to be applied to every spot on Earth. It has to be a permanent revolution.
We would cripple ourselves with the desire of wanting to be left alone thinking they would want the same... while the other side would want to win.
We would only waste time (and perhaps the battle) pursing a national divorce when that effort should be gathered into winning.
Breaking up the country isn’t possible.
One side has to win.
Totally unnecessary. Let abortions be free for all. That will make liberals go extinct in a few generations since, they undergo most abortions.
“ We don’t need to break it up, just go back to the original Federalism system this country started out with.”
Yes. Something along those lines.
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