Posted on 05/10/2023 2:55:36 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
According to The Aviation Herald, the aircraft was performing its initial climb out of Amsterdam's runway 24 when the left-hand engine, a General Electric GE90, began to vibrate. However, as these vibrations remained within "acceptable ranges," the crew continued the climb to cruising altitude. The jet was enroute at an altitude of FL300, about 310nm westsouthwest of Amsterdam, in English Airspace, when a failure of the aircraft's number one engine occurred, prompting a diversion and the decision to return to Amsterdam. Referencing a map, this incident would have occurred somewhere above Swindon or Bristol.
...It's interesting that the aircraft flew across the English Channel and returned to Amsterdam with one engine 'out' rather than divert to a closer airport, such as one of the several suitable facilities in the London area. As a commenter noted on a similar Air France incident over London, flying further would have been acceptable as home base was still relatively close by. Additionally, the Boeing 777 may have had to burn off fuel in order to land within a safe weight.
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But would you just hop on the replacement for the long ride to Brazil? Maybe take a boat?
Bette to burn off the fuel, rather than land heavy and loaded with explosive jet fuel.
GE90’s have rock solid reliability. Was maintenance on these engines being done by muslims ?
How many hours on engine.....?
Or more to the point....how many full stop-start cycles had engine gone through?
“Bette to burn off the fuel, rather than land heavy and loaded with explosive jet fuel.”
As a passenger I would have preferred that he remains over land to burn off fuel.
We do need to be skeptical. It would be okay to ask if Dr. Faucci and his Vaccine was given to this motor.
Sudden onset of vibration, even within allowable limits, should be a huge red flag. Something happened to unbalance all the rotating parts. Whatever happened wasn’t good.
The captain and probably technical advisors on the ground made the command decision to press on. Good thing it didn’t turn into disaster.
Of the 8 Boeing 777 full hull loses, 5 have occurred during a flight and 3 have occurred on the ground. Maybe landing faster would be better.
Or next time... Just take the Boeing 787 Dream Liner... No hull losses to date.
—”The captain and probably technical advisors on the ground made the command decision to press on. “
Years ago I had a tour of the United Airlines control center in Elk Grove Il.
Deep underground computers record many operating parameters of each of their planes and watch for anomalies.
A one-time pipe leak STOPPED ALL planes on the ground, in flight were allowed to continue to their destination.
I believe this is S.O.P. for all majors.
And they have a maintenance hanger there.
It amuses me when people who’ve never had their shirttail hung on a windsock offer advice on aviation safety.
—”It amuses me when people who’ve never had their shirttail hung on a windsock offer advice on aviation safety.”
A very standard!
We would have little to read and complain about.
How about written by AI... it is out there and gaining; the striking writers might lose some work.
“It also wants to ensure that written material covered under union agreements with the studios can’t be used to train AI.”
https://www.axios.com/2023/05/09/hollywood-writers-strike-2023-ai
They don't land heavy and overloaded; they dump the fuel in the air before landing.
I am no big iron guy but I have a lot of multi-engine time.
When one engine malfunctions, it is time to go to the nearest suitable airport. The theory that it will fly just as well on one is fine. It will get you to the airport unless, and a good friend of mine was killed this way, the same thing that caused that engine to quit could cause the other engine to quit.
Never assume that can’t happen.
My friend was highly experienced, jet fighters over North Korea and years of flying before and after. New hire on the flight line, improperly supervised, fueled his plane with jet fuel. Both quit over very rough terrain.
As for the expense and problems involved in repairing the aircraft on an airport far from home base, that is a management problem How to manage an emergency is the captain’s problem.
I thought it was common practice to dump fuel.
Who needs 4 engines for over the ocean flights when two will do? Who needs two pilots when one will do?.....
(New hire on the flight line, improperly supervised, fueled his plane with jet fuel. Both quit over very rough terrain.)
Wow. What type of aircraft was he flying?
An Aerostar.
Imagine one engine quits and a highly experienced pilot jams full rudder to the good engine side to hold it straight, ailerons just enough to keep it level and the other engine suddenly quits wile he is busy feathring and securing the dead engine.
And suddenly the other one quits.
It would be upside down before you could blink...or so I would expect.
Yikes
I don’t know about the fuel
Is that Aviation Gasoline it usrs?
And the guy put in jet fuel?
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