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The real reason bosses are freaked out by remote work ("Bosses think working from home is for sissies — they see the home as the woman's domain.")
Business Insider ^ | April 17, 2023 | Aki Ito

Posted on 04/24/2023 6:10:47 PM PDT by DoodleBob

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To: Dave911
BS....no one is as productive at home as they would be in the office. I’m not and I own the company. If you think you are you are either lying to yourself or your employer or both.

I work in software, and manage several teams. We're fine with work from home - and more productive.
21 posted on 04/24/2023 7:43:34 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Dave911

My boss said the exact opposite just last week.


22 posted on 04/24/2023 7:46:54 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy...and call it progress" )
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To: MNJohnnie
Well that shows even someone as smart as Elon has his idiot moments. Twitter would be a perfect work from home company that he could eliminate all his facility and equipment overhead if he set them all to work from home

Remote work is good for certain types of work, particularly if you have a mature group of employees who already work together well, work well within an existing hierarchy, or can work well independently.

A company in a state of flux, bloated with entitled do-nothings, insider threats, and new management that wants to streamline the entire codebase yesterday... bad fit for remote work.

Musk needed to establish control over a company that was in a state of mutiny, and he needed to do it quickly. It came at a cost, but the cost of not squashing the mutiny was going to be much greater.

Twitter after that massive personnel upheaval and codebase refactoring might be a good candidate for remote work again, and with the layoffs, it would certainly save money by renegotiating or leaving its real estate agreements, but in those first months, it was a necessary call to pull people back into offices, even if some really good talent left because of it.

23 posted on 04/24/2023 8:01:27 PM PDT by jz638
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To: Dave911

YOUR full of BS friend ...
My coworkers and I have defnintely generated a lot more work since the “Work from Home” stuff started.

This is because the idea of “Work from Home” has turned into “they are available 24/5 or 6”.

With my customers around the world, my 6am is Euorpe’s noon (or 11am with Day Light Savings) and I’m on the computer at 6am. Then I have my customers in Australia which leads to meetings and training at 7pm to 8pm or so.

So our time at work has expanded quite a lot ... but it is not really a big deal when I don’t have to spend 3 to 3 1/2 hours in the car back and forth to the office. In fact our company downsized considerably in late 2021 to a small office for client meetings and housing for our servers.

If your job is not on the manufacturing line or in-person service having your office workers work from home is ideal.

Plus we are “saving the planet” by not burning all that “fossil fuel” /s.


24 posted on 04/24/2023 8:06:46 PM PDT by CapnJack ( )
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To: DoodleBob
Probably other companies getting mad because they can't use their female recruiters, who they pimp out like whores, for sales when all their male clients are working from home.
25 posted on 04/24/2023 8:07:57 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Democrats groom then butcher children and call it gender affirming. )
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To: Dave911

I know that’s wrong but I think it may be highly dependent on what your job/industry is

I’ve been working remote for over 20 years (I do travel frequently and am in a very public/customer facing position) but all going to an office does is waste my time commuting

As far as productivity-in my industry there are clear goals, metrics, projects, and pure revenue generation targets that can’t be faked

In many industries /roles there may still be need for an office environment but for experienced professionals no-those of us who can do this also know when we need to gather


26 posted on 04/24/2023 8:34:07 PM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

It’s easy-are your projects being completed? Your customers happy? Have you created or improved something that brings quantifiable value?


27 posted on 04/24/2023 8:36:20 PM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: webheart

I know hundreds people in my industry who never report to an office and they do well-most of my peers make than doctors (including specialists) and it’s not for nothing, we have specialised skills and work hard

There are days I don’t have much going on and might go to the store, take kids to the park, sit in the pool or take nap. The next day might start at 6 am and require travel and hours upon hours of difficult meetings until late night and repeat again and again


28 posted on 04/24/2023 8:41:53 PM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: jz638
Remote work is good for certain types of work, particularly if you have a mature group of employees who already work together well, work well within an existing hierarchy, or can work well independently.

Might work well for small companies. Or if you are a talented employee with an impressive track record. So that's not going to apply for most peons (90% of us).

29 posted on 04/24/2023 8:47:53 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Manuel OKelley
Nope it is not easy.

Your projects are completed but this is not a set of math problems. How were they completed? Did you get advice and input from other people? How many ways could your project fall apart under stress?

And I have known sales men who had very happy customers, until about six months down the line.

Have you created or improved something that brings quantifiable value?

Defined as......?

And how many people actually do "created or improved something" even once in their work life? Most people spend their time making sure all the little things happen that results in something coming out the other end that works.

They don't invent anything new but they keep the wheels spinning.

30 posted on 04/24/2023 8:51:27 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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To: cgbg

Tucker Carlson was fired as he worked from home and did not want to come into the office.... : )


31 posted on 04/24/2023 9:55:28 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: DoodleBob

Somebody at BI opining about petty reasons why he and his like-minded ilk want to ‘remote work.’ I was a manager of 35 people and my fear was that some of them were just putting in the minimum effort to avoid attention and that the work output was similar. I never once thought about being home was a “sissy’s domain.”


32 posted on 04/24/2023 10:03:53 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: CapnJack
"My coworkers and I have defnintely generated a lot more work since the “Work from Home” stuff started.

This is because the idea of “Work from Home” has turned into “they are available 24/5 or 6”."

Concur with your assessment. I teleworked for 15 years. For the last ten years I supervised a team that lived in 11 different time zones.

I told my people that I did not care what their hours were, but I wanted success. I did not track hours but I know for a fact that the work load for most of us varied from 30 to 60 hours a week depending upon the task at hand. I never got a request for overtime pay. We used to change the times of our weekly meeting so everyone got the fun of a 2AM or 11PM meeting.

I used to tell people that under telework the commute to work was less than 30 seconds, but you never leave the office.

33 posted on 04/24/2023 11:46:45 PM PDT by fini
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To: DoodleBob

No workee-from-office here ever again. Especially since I moved as far away from America’s sh&thole cities as I could. My skyline now consists of grain silos.


34 posted on 04/25/2023 2:05:37 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: webheart

“you could pretend to work at 2 or 3 different jobs and all you would have to do is produce something meaningful every once in a while.”

You could—if middle management are blithering idiots.

That tells us more about management than it does about workers.


35 posted on 04/25/2023 6:00:54 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Dave911

My office had Laquishas on the phone all day with their friends discussing their “good” sons latest run-ins with the law.

Meanwhile the managers had endless useless “mandatory” meetings that killed productivity.

Once we started working at home Laquisha had to produce or she went away—same for the managers.


36 posted on 04/25/2023 6:02:54 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: DoodleBob

Work from home = you work from your house
Remote Work = you work away from the office

We’ve been kicking around the idea of renting some space in town to create a remote office for some of us home workers. That way, I’m not at home where my wife gets tired of me being home but not available. Plus there is all the noise associated with it. I miss the office environment. I could go back into the office but no one is there and it is 35 minutes away.


37 posted on 04/25/2023 6:13:25 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: webheart
Does not apply to me.

I'm an engineer, and work harder now on the 3 days a week I'm in my home office (physically different building than my house) than I ever did before 2019. Constant stream of text/Teams messages, emails, meeting requests, all of which prevent ACTUAL engineering work.

38 posted on 04/25/2023 9:38:45 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Hold on, y'all, 2023 is going to be a ride you won't soon forget!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Some of us do invent. 8 patents and counting.


39 posted on 04/25/2023 9:39:32 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Hold on, y'all, 2023 is going to be a ride you won't soon forget!)
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To: backwoods-engineer
Some few do.

Vast majority don't.

Perhaps I can explain it this way, about 20% of people have careers. 80% of people have jobs.

They might even be important jobs. Certainly the guy who makes sure the gas main is properly sealed has an important job. But it is still just a job.

He is not creating anything new. Just making sure the old stuff does not vanish in a cloud of smoke.

Good thing he does not want to just work from home.

Or we would be seeing a lot more smoke and a lot less gas.

40 posted on 04/25/2023 10:04:02 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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