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Why not kill them all?
London Review of Books ^ | September 11, 2014 | Keith Gessen in Donetsk

Posted on 02/28/2023 7:52:03 AM PST by linMcHlp

No one was thinking that all this would lead to war. People were scared and unhappy and doing something about it. That the protest took on such a strong separatist colour was due less to the protesters’ basic demands (regional autonomy might have been enough for many) than to the recent Russian annexation of Crimea. ‘The contradictions didn’t necessarily lead to war,’ Dergunov said. ‘But when Crimea went with the option of total separation, it pushed the extremes, both pro-Ukraine and pro-Russian, to the fore. That was Putin’s real crime – this is what created the war.’

Then, on 12 April [2014], the police station in the city of Slovyansk, fifty miles north of Donetsk, was taken over by a group of unidentified commandos. The police were overwhelmed. ‘These were not locals with hunting rifles,’ the new chief of the Slovyansk police told me. ‘These were highly trained, well-armed men.’ It soon became evident that the commandos had come from abroad: the Russian aid that the protesters in Donetsk had been calling for had finally materialised. At that moment, what had been a people’s uprising turned into an armed revolt, and some would say a covert invasion.

Disorganised and confused, the post-revolutionary government in Kiev was also intimidated: the Russians had massed troops at the border and repeatedly said that they were prepared to meet any violence against pro-Russia protesters with force. After the armed takeover of Slovyansk and then a dozen other cities in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, the government sent in some tanks, unaccompanied by infantry, only to have local residents block their movements.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: donetsk; lugansk; russia; ukraine
The article is 6579 words. The various sides in the regional struggles, are not a clean two-sided civil unrest affair. More like the early, polyglot mess in Spain, 1930 - 1935.
1 posted on 02/28/2023 7:52:03 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: linMcHlp

London and the US used their “guarantee” status in Ukraine with Russia to infiltrate NATO into yet another State making a series of lies by the US cross the very Red Line Russia has always stated, e.g., that they could not, would, have or tolerate a hostile state on Russia’s boarder.

Obama knew the Risks, but then again, destroying the US and Russia at the same time was an appealing proposition. Including China in the mix, now, only makes that appeal the ultimate NWO elite wet dream.

Biden is a stupid tool.


2 posted on 02/28/2023 7:58:40 AM PST by Jumper ( )
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To: Jumper
The Russians create hostile states on their borders.

They have been an expansionist power for a very long time.

3 posted on 02/28/2023 8:07:21 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Jumper

“Russia has always stated, e.g., that they could not, would, have or tolerate a hostile state on Russia’s boarder.”

Well, Russia had already created and funded an armed rebellion in Ukraine by that point, so it was a little late for them to worry about having a hostile state on their border, since they had done everything possible to create one.


4 posted on 02/28/2023 8:30:58 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: linMcHlp

There are two problems:

1. A war in Ukraine

2. Our own federal government

Which problem should be fixed first?


5 posted on 02/28/2023 10:13:15 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: blueunicorn6

Ask a child, they are good at fantasy and playing imagination games.


6 posted on 02/28/2023 1:56:13 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Ahhhhhh…..

A Chihuahua joins the discussion


7 posted on 02/28/2023 7:02:05 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: blueunicorn6

Another childish post.


8 posted on 02/28/2023 7:06:00 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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