Posted on 09/28/2022 5:58:08 AM PDT by rlmorel
Electronic Vehicles are being pushed on the public before the technology is ready. This article by Andrew Thomas addresses the folly of this approach.
These are excerpts from this excellent piece:
"...You cannot tell progressive politicians that the technology for EV’s is still in its infancy. You cannot convince them that the current state of technology makes them completely impractical and unworkable on a national scale. We are at the same point in technological history as we were in 1896, when we transitioned from “horseless carriages” powered by steam and electric motors to gasoline engines. What we see on the EV road today will in no way resemble what the technology ultimately comes up with..."
"...The current electric grid will need to be strengthened by the development of hundreds of new nuclear power plants. There is no political will in this country to do that, especially among those promoting EVs the hardest. Hundreds of new windmill and solar farms aren’t going to cut it and will negatively impact the environment and wildlife much more than nuclear..."
"...Up to 17 states are geared to follow California down the rabbit hole and ban the sales of new gasoline-powered vehicles by 2035, just twelve and-a-quarter years from now. Have they thought ahead to all of the potential costs and ramifications of this decision? No, of course not. This is tantamount to throwing everyone off a high cliff and expecting someone to develop a parachute on the way down. You cannot force technology advancements by political edict..."
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
It is one thing to have technology and infrastructure advancing hand-in-hand with each other, it is quite another to take an existing technology in its embryonic state and demand it be implemented on a wide scale absent any critical and emergent issue.
"Climate Change" as presented by the climate alarmists is not a critical and emergent issue.
Even worse, is pushing a mass migration to this technology before any kind of infrastructure is present. I have heard people say "Cars didn't have an interstate highway systems and networks of gasoline stations built before people began buying them; why do we need to have electrical infrastructure and capacity built before we have electronic vehicles?"
When the migration from horses to ICE vehicles took place, people were not being mandated to do it, and the government was not involved in forcing it. The market did it. Sure, government was involved in getting roads built, but it was the population that drove it politically, not the initiative of politicians, and the infrastructure was driven by market forces as well, not mandated by government.
When an area had enough vehicles, a market was created, and a void was filled by enterprising people looking to make a buck.
There are too many discussions on the subject of Electronic Vehicles where the obvious issues outlined in this well written article are simply ignored.
Ignoring those issues, is going to throw all of us off a cliff whether we can develop a parachute on the way down or not.
That’s the reason why I am uneasy with Elon Musk buying Twitter. He is fully invested in Tesla and battery building and I am afraid he might ban people saying that for “misinformation”.
As an EV owner I frequent EV forums. Here's how I explained the problem to the government-must-save-us cult that's pervasive among the EV community. https://www.ioniqforum.com/threads/ea-i-love-you-but.43356/#post-530582.
Acronyms: EA is Electrify America and is free for about 2 years to most new EV owners (technically because of an agreement between EA and the EV makers, but really the gubment is involved). Thus some of the service is crappy, and because it's "free" potential competitors are disincentivized from setting up good charging stations.
And that's not even getting into the obvious limitations of extra demand on the grid while Dims are simultaneously making the grid less functional.
Interestingly enough, a few of my fellow EV owners installed solar. But the ones who did just a small token system are full of the woke-ism BS. The few who have a large system tend to be more conservative like me and believe that investing in individual energy independence is worth it. The EV extends the energy independence to our mobility, at least for local driving (obviously not for on the road charging during trips).
We already do that at the gas pump. Oil refineries have to buy RIN's (carbon credits) to lower their carbon tax. Tesla is always happy to sell them carbon credits for a price a little lower than the carbon tax. I've read this adds 75 cents to every gallon sold, and that was before Brandon increased the ethanol mandate to 15%. (I honestly can't remember if Brandon went ahead with that or if it was canceled.)
The author doesn’t understand what is happening.
Elon Musk and his superb teams of Tesla engineers have developed manufacturing technology that obsoletes the existing. The reason is not the worship of climate change, but to make money, lots of money in unimaginable magnitude.
Twitter pissed Musk off. He is good friends with a Twitter CEO who knows all the Twitter sins and buried skeletons. The Musk run on Twitter is just plain old fun.
I think your concerns are reasonable.
I like Elon Musk for some very specific reasons, but I don’t believe he is a “conservative”. He believes in Freedom of Speech and is a visionary in space travel (which I like) but does have his mouth firmly on the government teat, and is oddly in bed with the ChiComs.
I disagree with you here, bert.
I think the author sees quite clearly what is going on, but I think you and the author are looking at it through different prisms.
As I said in my post above, there is much to like about Musk and I admire him for those things, and he is a capitalist in it to make scads of money, often playing both sides of the fence.
It is what it is, for me. I can handle him sucking off the government teat if we get SpaceX types of things. Heck, I would rather my tax money go to subsidizing that, rather than the other silliness I see.
Yes. Musk is, to the consternation of both US and THEM, playing both sides of the fence.
I both dislike it and grudgingly admire it at the same time.
“Electronic Vehicles are being pushed on the public before the technology is ready.”
As if it’s ever going to be ready
The Musk SpaceX engineers have bested the world. They developed products that were superior to those of giants NASA, Boeing and Russia.
Rather than suck on the tit, SpaceX is dominant because of excellence in providing a superior product that the US government and others want and need.
There were inventors driving around in electric horseless carriages 60 years BEFORE Karl Benz "invented" the automobile. If EV 'technology' still is in its infancy after 200 years of R&D, maybe it's a bridge too far. Maybe it's the 'prequel' to Cold Fusion.
In any case, it is utterly nonsensical to be risking the future of western civilization on them.
The Tesla plant runs just like any other manufacturing plant. Ain’t nothing new there
Actually, you are wrong.
No other plants have the casting press capacity and capability. No other plant gets so much accomplished with so few robots.
” There were inventors driving around in electric horseless carriages 60 years BEFORE Karl Benz “invented” the automobile. If EV ‘technology’ still is in its infancy after 200 years of R&D, maybe it’s a bridge too far. Maybe it’s the ‘prequel’ to Cold Fusion.
In any case, it is utterly nonsensical to be risking the future of western civilization on them.”
And that is it in a nutshell right there. We have already been there and it didn’t work then either.
I worked there
It was like every other manufacturing plant particularly in Silicon Valley
Oh, I don’t dispute that at all! I am in complete agreement with you on that, though not all Conservatives are. We can differ with them on that, I think.
I am a big fan of SpaceX, and Tesla too, for that matter. But if he does it while “sucking on the government teat”, I can live with that because he is advancing technology and making money hand over fist.
That is different from a government using tax money to give $535 million dollars to Solyndra, whose investors were BIG Obama fundraisers and supporters, then they went belly up a year later,and over half a billion taxpayer dollars simply vanished.
Vanished without a trace. Not a thing to show for it, even a 1/1000% increase in solar panel efficiency-NOTHING.
Just vanished. And nobody knows where it went, whose pockets got lined...
No. Musk is not that. I hope I didn’t give the impression he was.
“This is tantamount to throwing everyone off a high cliff and expecting someone to develop a parachute on the way down. You cannot force technology advancements by political edict...” “
That, in a nutshell.
They are spoiled, dangerous brats who want what they want come hell or high water.
And sadly we on the other side who are supposed to be the responsible adult parents, are letting the brats do whatever they want.
Actuality no. Musk has come out and said essentially the same thing that this guy is saying.
“Elon Musk: ‘Civilization Will Crumble’ Without Oil And Gas In Short Term”
When I read the article, I thought that was the money quote!
Because that is what it feels like they are doing. And they are in charge right now.
I did not know that! It is why I continue to be a paying member of FR! Thank you-
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