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my coworker is using paid paternity leave to work a second job instead of taking care of his baby
Ask a Manager ^ | 8-24-22 | Allison Green

Posted on 08/24/2022 2:02:07 PM PDT by Brookhaven

My company recently expanded its parental leave policy so that anyone, regardless of gender, gets the same, generous leave of six months fully paid. It’s called “bonding leave” so the intent is pretty clear. One of my male colleagues told me very matter of factly that he is intending to take his full leave after his wife’s paid maternity leave is up. But, instead of caring for the baby, he is going to get a “second” job for 6 months and his wife is going to stay home with the baby and take unpaid leave from her job. In effect, he will have two salaries (but work one job), and she will have no salary. They will actually net out ahead financially because he earns more than her. He is actually going to make tremendously more money during those 6 months, because he is going to do an hourly contractor job, since his benefits are paid for by our company.

I’m appalled but can’t put my finger on why this bothers me so much. His point is that our company – a Fortune 500 company with tens of thousands of employees and plenty of money – is not paying a penny more than they would otherwise; he doesn’t want to care for the baby full-time and his wife desperately does, so they are “maximizing utility.” I didn’t want to ask too many questions because it would have been clear I disapprove. Part of it is, I’m a new mom myself but had my baby before the new policy was announced so was only able to take 18 weeks (still generous, but I’m definitely jealous and kind of mad my baby didn’t “count” in the new policy).

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To: Brookhaven

Sounds like he’s being a good father and working so his wife can stay home with the baby. You know...the traditional way we used to do this, and built the greatest civilization the world has ever known based on that model.

The company offers it, and he’s using it in a way that will provide for his family to maxim benefit as he sees fit.

I don’t think it anyone else’s business how he does that.


21 posted on 08/24/2022 2:38:38 PM PDT by Jotmo (Whoever said, "The pen is mightier than the sword." has clearly never been stabbed to death.)
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To: Boogieman

It is dishonest. The man is not to be trusted.


22 posted on 08/24/2022 2:46:22 PM PDT by BatGuano (2020 = Stolen Election. Believe it! Molon Labe.)
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To: humblegunner

LOL!


23 posted on 08/24/2022 2:49:24 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Brookhaven

Poor people. They just don’t realize how great this economy is ... according to Biden.


24 posted on 08/24/2022 2:50:15 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: Deaf Smith

Is the baby a trans?


25 posted on 08/24/2022 2:50:45 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Brookhaven

I had a coworker take his ten days of paternity leave as twenty golf afternoons.


26 posted on 08/24/2022 2:51:02 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil...-Churchill)
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To: montag813

He told her about it, but that didn’t make it her business. People have often told me stuff that’s none of my business, but I ignore it rather than spout it to the world as this woman is doing.


27 posted on 08/24/2022 2:51:35 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Brookhaven
he doesn’t want to care for the baby full-time and his wife desperately does

How unusual! Was his partner (the chest feeder) assigned female at birth?

My position on paternity leave: The day after the delivery a man should be back at work, working twice as hard to demolish the competition. As soon as the baby's eyes can focus, when he goes to pick him or her up, and for about eight months afterwards, the baby has that, "Oh, crap - not you again" moment which is not good for Dad or baby.

A better arrangement is one year paternity leave when they turn 16, when you actually can do some useful things that birthing persons aren't so good at.

28 posted on 08/24/2022 2:56:16 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When policemen break the law, then there isn't any law - just a fight for survival)
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To: Brookhaven

Systems have loop holes some master what other don’t see.


29 posted on 08/24/2022 3:24:12 PM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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To: Brookhaven

The guy is a bum, taking advantage of his fellow employees. At my work we have “men” who have taken 3+ paternity leaves (and more) over a few years and it places a huge burden on co-workers who have to take up the slack. In the days when America was great, men wouldn’t even consider such an absurdity. These guys are golfing all day and spending maybe an hour shaking car keys at their newborn infants...who sleep 16 hours a day. Absurd policy.


30 posted on 08/24/2022 3:33:26 PM PDT by Mozzafiato
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To: Brookhaven

Depends on company policy. If he’s transparent about it, I say fine.


31 posted on 08/24/2022 3:33:45 PM PDT by viewfromthefrontier
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

She should look at this as an advantage for her. If a promotion comes up in the next 6 months she will be ahead of him. The six months will also either increase the gap in their qualification levels(if she is more experienced to begin with) or close the gap if she is less experienced. It is still a net benefit for her over him if it is a competitive work environment regarding promotions.


32 posted on 08/24/2022 3:48:15 PM PDT by Vealbone
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To: Brookhaven
It's a job benefit that's offered by his company. He meets the qualifications so he's taking it. Does the benefit explicitly say that he has to be sole caretaker of the baby during that time? How many hours a day does it state? Do you have to send in photographic proof? I doubt the answer is yes to any of these questions. As long as he meets the company's standards for the paid time off then there's nothing unethical about it, it's the company's benefit to award, not what this woman thinks the requirements should be.

He either qualifies for the time off under the company's rules or he doesn't. I personally think it's ridiculous that men are getting paternity leave after their wife has a baby but I don't make the rules. Pete Buttgigger took two months off from his work and he's just a gay guy that adopted a baby, that's ludicrous but the government's rules say he can do it so ethically he did nothing wrong.

This woman is a busybody and it's none of her business.

33 posted on 08/24/2022 3:54:46 PM PDT by GaryCrow
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To: GaryCrow

I’ve read some stories about guys who are working multiple “remote” jobs simultaneously. If they’re making their bosses happy, so be it.


34 posted on 08/24/2022 3:56:38 PM PDT by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: Brookhaven

Burn him with the employer.


35 posted on 08/24/2022 3:58:27 PM PDT by moovova
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To: Vealbone

She’ll also have six solid months for backstabbing and undermining the guy. He might as well not come back.


36 posted on 08/24/2022 4:02:27 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Boogieman

Not only a smart guy but his wife and baby will benefit greatly by it. He’s being a good dad by providing for his family. Who cares if the company is paying for his leave. Unless there are restrictions in this company benefit he can do what he pleases and Allison should mind her own business.


37 posted on 08/24/2022 6:01:32 PM PDT by punknpuss
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To: Boogieman

Not only a smart guy but his wife and baby will benefit greatly by it. He’s being a good dad by providing for his family. Who cares if the company is paying for his leave. Unless there are restrictions in this company benefit he can do what he pleases and Allison should mind her own business.


38 posted on 08/24/2022 6:01:34 PM PDT by punknpuss
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To: Brookhaven

Gee who couldn’t see this coming.


39 posted on 08/24/2022 6:20:18 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny )
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To: MayflowerMadam
“I would not want him on my team.”

I wouldn’t, either. Then again, I wouldn’t want anyone on my team. I hate teams.


Best answer!

40 posted on 08/24/2022 7:06:03 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free... Galatians 5:1 )
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