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Air Force Open to Sending A-10s to Ukraine for Fight Against Russia
Yahoo ^ | 21 July 2022 | Thomas Novelly

Posted on 07/23/2022 9:41:46 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

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To: DUMBGRUNT

We just love poking the Bear, don’t we? Before much more of that FAFO idiocy goes on, we’re going to be in serious danger of a takedown of our grid or worse. We’re playing in their backyard, in an area they consider vital to their security over the long term - and thus is a nation in demographic decline that knows it, that needs to achieve certain security goals before it is too late, and which has 6,000 nukes and a nuclear war WINNING doctrine and strategy…and we have a senile, traitorous, old coot nominally in charge. This isn’t going to work out well for us if we continue down this path.


21 posted on 07/23/2022 10:16:26 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Ukraine must have awfully good pilots. They can just jump into any type of plane and kill those Dirty Russians.


22 posted on 07/23/2022 10:18:13 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I’m not a military person, but it seems bizarre that the Air Force expects the F-35 to fill the ground combat support and anti-armor role of the A-10

It seems like using a samurai sword when a hammer is needed. But I’m open to being proven wrong.


23 posted on 07/23/2022 10:18:36 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: I want the USA back
Remember that “doomsday clock”? The one that exists only when there’s a Republican president?

Yes, the one that's connected to the MSM daily gas-price monitor and the covid-spike alert siren.

24 posted on 07/23/2022 10:20:31 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: DUMBGRUNT

FLYING COFFINS
> July 22 by Will Schryver
“The notion that the US (and/or its NATO allies) can ship F-16s and A-10s to Ukraine in order to save the Ukrainians from an otherwise absolutely certain defeat is an unqualified delusion; a ridiculous fantasy of the highest order.
To be even more precise, it’s batshit crazy silly talk.”

In-depth look at this possible transfer at the link.

Please comment after reading the column, not just this clip.

https://www.imetatronink.com/2022/07/flying-coffins.html


25 posted on 07/23/2022 10:25:49 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: DesertRhino

—”Air Force sucks.”

Worse than you might think.
In RVN it was believed as an ultimate truth: AF guys slept on MATTRESS! And some had AIR CONDITIONING!!!

The only AC I can recall was when I awoke on the Hospital Ship Sanctuary. (May have just been cool ocean air?)


26 posted on 07/23/2022 10:31:58 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“I’m not aware of any current plan or even a discussion of a current plan to field or provide A-10s to the Ukrainians,” Kendall said at the time.

They’re open to discussing it, but not discussing it and not planning to discuss it at this time. Perfectly clear.


27 posted on 07/23/2022 10:39:30 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I believe the Soviets used to call A-10s,The Devils Cross.


28 posted on 07/23/2022 10:41:49 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Luke 23:29...= abortion.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Just stop this, already, Biden.

We are squandering our military equipment with an entity who will sell it for blow, then video record his use of that blow, over and over, again.

Ukraine didn’t fight what Russia got in 2014. Why are we giving so much to Ukraine, when they honestly don’t care?

Let the UN fight the war. We need to get OUT.


29 posted on 07/23/2022 10:42:34 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: House Atreides

Russia currently mainly shoots down (air defense) Su-25s.

Last month when the idea of NATO shipping aircraft to Ukraine came up and the Pentagon first made the point of only aircraft parts being provided pundits claimed the planes were being taken apart and shipped.

Later on one Telegram channel asserted that the Czech Republic had shipped 20 planes to Ukraine. Soon after that the lull in Russian shoot downs ended. And there are now frequent days when they take down two.

“Czech Air Force. After the dissolution of Czechoslovakia, the Czech Republic inherited twenty-four Su-25Ks and one Su-25UBK. In December 2000, the Czech Su-25s were retired from service.”


30 posted on 07/23/2022 10:48:24 AM PDT by Cathi
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To: DIRTYSECRET
"Man. We should have allowed Ukrainians to serve in our military all along. Pathway to citizenship. Then they’d be better prepared to go back and defend their own country by training them on our weapons systems that could apply to their homeland situation. I understand some Israeli Ukrainians have done that."

Like Colonel Vindman, The Ukrainian agent "whistleblower" who helped initiate in the impeachment against President Trump? Ukrainian Patriots like that? That is idiotic.

31 posted on 07/23/2022 10:49:04 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (Welcome to leftist Planet Lab Cage where are YOU are the rat)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Just the Air Force looking to cut inventory.

The military budget is cut so much we can't afford to fly them. Ukraine can, with our money of course.

32 posted on 07/23/2022 10:49:56 AM PDT by Don Corleone (leave the gun, take the canolis)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Just the Air Force looking to cut inventory.

That's exactly what this is about.

33 posted on 07/23/2022 11:07:11 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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To: oldplayer

They would work pretty well. The Putinist tanks are old and they are the enemy that the a10s were built for


34 posted on 07/23/2022 11:07:31 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cathi

Why do you keep repeating old news from the kremlin?


35 posted on 07/23/2022 11:08:26 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: DUMBGRUNT

A-10s are not appropriate for the conditions in Ukraine, and they are also pretty much obsolete. I’m sure there are older generation drones that could do a much better job.

If they want to win, they have to fight this as an asymmetrical war. Use cheap, grass roots high tech — drones, web communications, etc. If they try to fight this like a WWII Russian/German tank and artillery war, they will eventually lose. Also, they have to hit the Russians IN RUSSIA — bridges, depots, pipelines, etc.


36 posted on 07/23/2022 11:11:00 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Cronos

Looks like Brandon is holding back on the big platforms as carrots to get Ukraine to agree to a ceasefire and frozen conflict. The deal will be Ukraine will get F-16, long range missiles, etc. but only after a ceasefire.


37 posted on 07/23/2022 11:12:25 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The AF has been looking for a way to get rid of them since about the time they got them.

Why? They aren’t fast. The AF are descended from ricky booby.


38 posted on 07/23/2022 11:50:38 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

When we ‘leave’, we will leave them behind.

I would like one.


39 posted on 07/23/2022 11:57:03 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Has it come across anyone’s mind that Russia and China are just bleeding the US military. They know, especially now, that Biden, and Congress as a whole, will do whatever it takes to protect Ukraine and the money making machine that it is.

So, here the US is just sending ship and plane load after ship and plane load of all sorts of military gear.

Raytheon CEO warns of delays in Stinger missile production .... https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3465231-raytheon-ceo-warns-of-delays-in-stinger-missile-production/

US Running Out of Javelin Anti-Tank Missiles to Send to Ukraine: Report .... https://sputniknews.com/20220418/us-running-out-of-javelin-anti-tank-missiles-to-send-to-ukraine-report-1094868838.html

Ukraine War Is Depleting America’s Arsenal of Democracy .... https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-04-14/russia-ukraine-war-u-s-is-running-out-of-weapons-aiding-kyiv

And now we’re learning the US Army is, basically, abandoning any and all recruiting goals ... US Army Abandons Recruitment Goals, But Not Its Woke Policies ... https://dailycaller.com/2022/07/20/army-abandons-recruitment-goals-woke-policies/


40 posted on 07/23/2022 12:20:36 PM PDT by qaz123
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