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How Predatory Teachers Stay on the Job
Voice of San Diego ^ | May 10, 2018 | Ashly McGlone

Posted on 04/24/2022 7:02:12 AM PDT by DoodleBob

...some of the systemic issues that have allowed accused teachers to get favorable exit deals and move to new schools with their reputations intact, where they may continue to abuse students...Lackluster prevention training. Poor record-keeping. Inconsistent policies from school to school and district to district. Union protections, costly litigation and disbelief.

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For students willing to report harassment and abuse by school employees... Even if parents do believe the student, the school can pose additional obstacles. Principals or investigators interviewing the student may question their intentions, and even encourage them to think twice about making a report.

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In practice, not all schools escalate reports of abuse or harassment to law enforcement.

Some don’t even alert the school district office, and instead keep concerns and investigations at the school level. Some local union contracts, including the San Diego Unified teachers’ contact, require complaints against employees be handled at the lowest possible level, though laws require employees to report suspected child abuse to local law enforcement....School district lawyers estimate districts may end up spending $100,000 to successfully terminate a teacher who fights a dismissal, or $300,000 or more if the district loses, since the district is then ordered to pay the teacher’s legal fees.

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A report released April 30 by the nonpartisan Legislative Analyst’s Office said the median time spent by the teacher commission investigating teacher misconduct was 414 days.

Once a decision is made, educators can appeal it to the Department of Justice, which can settle a case or argue it before an administrative law judge...the median time taken by the DOJ to process a teacher misconduct appeals case is 631 days.

“Together, CTC and DOJ are taking a combined 1,045 days to close out a teacher misconduct appeals case,” the report says.

(Excerpt) Read more at voiceofsandiego.org ...


TOPICS: Education; Society
KEYWORDS: educators; groomers
This article where AFT head Randi Weingarten said

We're not indoctrinating, We're not grooming. … What we're doing is making sure we educate kids. We keep them safe. We keep them welcome. And we teach them how to think, not what to think.

got me searching for empirical research on sexual misconduct in schools.

In short, I found ONLY ONE decent study and that's from 2004. Professor Shakeshaft's analysis indicated that 9.6 percent of all students in grades 8 to 11 report contact and/or noncontact educator sexual misconduct that was unwanted. Her estimate was that more than 4.5 million students are subject to sexual misconduct by an employee of a school sometime between kindergarten and 12th grade.

THIS article - while 4 years old it covers the bases well - points to why there is no comprehensive policing, and likely why the leftists are so triggered by the Florida law.

To quote Professor Shakeshaft, we must "Stop Prioritizing the comfort of adults over the safety of Children".

1 posted on 04/24/2022 7:02:12 AM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

PUBLIC SCHOOL GROOMERS!


2 posted on 04/24/2022 7:03:17 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: DoodleBob

I didn’t read the entire article, but I hope it mentions teachers’ unions as another factor that keeps bad teachers on the job.


3 posted on 04/24/2022 7:04:52 AM PDT by Scarlett156 (Me 3 weeks ago: EVERYONE STOP GOING ON TWATTER. *Elon happens* Me: *goes on twatter twice a day*)
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To: Scarlett156
I was just about to reply to you, on the Moms of Liberty article...

The state bill that died earlier this year would have required schools to inquire with past employers to see if applicants were previously found responsible for an act of child abuse or sexual misconduct with a pupil. Schools would have been required to disclose substantiated sexual misconduct findings directly to other schools.

The legislation would have also banned language preventing disclosure of child abuse or sexual misconduct with a child in union contracts, as well as termination or severance deals with employees.

Miller’s group, SESAME, helped write the bill. She calls “passing the trash” “deliberate child endangerment. … One predator can have as many as 73 victims in lifetime.”

The California Teachers Association, the American Civil Liberties Union and others opposed the bill, citing due process concerns for employees.

4 posted on 04/24/2022 7:11:18 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: DoodleBob

They stay on the job in exactly the same way that predatory priests stayed on the job. Sympathetic superiors, many of them compromised themselves, turned a blind eye, quietly moved the problem cases around when the heat started to build, and justified their negligence by claiming that they were defending the institution.


5 posted on 04/24/2022 7:23:46 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: Scarlett156

I think the biggest issue is the inherent incompetence of HR depts. Deliberate, too.
Before hiring someone there is always ALWAYS supposed to be some vetting. Not by hiring manager, HR!

An applicant sends in a resume — which is an applicant’s vision of their life (relative to job). A hiring manager reads that to see if there is a possible. And, a resume will never point out flaws.
HR should at least be obliged to go over social media posts to see if they are nutjobs before sending the hiring manager a list of potentials.
If HR does not do this? Of what value are they to any company?


6 posted on 04/24/2022 7:33:32 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: DoodleBob

“...language preventing disclosure of child abuse or sexual misconduct with a child in union contracts.”

Because it’s none of those darned parents’ business! It’s not just stupid. It’s not just crazy. It’s demonic.


7 posted on 04/24/2022 7:40:05 AM PDT by Scarlett156 (Me 3 weeks ago: EVERYONE STOP GOING ON TWATTER. *Elon happens* Me: *goes on twatter twice a day*)
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To: DoodleBob
Only Child Molesters want to sexualize young children.

Their supporters endorse their agenda and protect their behavior.

8 posted on 04/24/2022 7:41:42 AM PDT by G Larry (Anybody notice that Satan is hard at work?)
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To: DoodleBob
First of all, this article appears to be conflating "harassment", an overbroad term used by leftists as anything they don't like, such as questioning fluid sexual identities, with sexual improprieties. The two are not the same. Harassment claims are a way to defeat free speech rights by claiming the speaker/writer "intended to annoy" someone. Sorry, but I don't accept the first premise.

Also note, that as America has become increasingly authoritarian, police are now stationed in our public schools. This may be explained by the fact that it has become harder through the years to remove problem students, i.e., those who interfere in the rights of other students to learn, from the schools. The odd thing about that is that a dirty cop probably can target minor students sexually, since they are apparently not considered as acting as parents, en loco parentis , in the schools. The worst case of betrayal by a public official from sexual abuse was a local police chief who was literally having sex with at least one minor in his office. He got away with it when the local DA declined to prosecute him, apparently because a criminal conviction might require that he reopen many other convictions...

Just remember that many, if not most, students no longer live in traditional two parent households. Who is more likely to sexually abuse a child, a licensed teacher, or the new live-in boyfriend mom dredged up at the corner bar? If these students can't bond with their teachers, because the teacher is afraid of being accused of "grooming" for taking an interest in the child, who will protect these kids? I don't have a problem with that, and I remember when it was normal for students to stay in touch with their teachers. Today, we have a generation of women who used bogus abuse claims to get sole custody of their kids, and keep the father out of the kids' lives. They have now turned that strategy against teachers who get too friendly with students. IMHO, that is wrong, and those parents should be reported for that. Isolating a child is suspicious behavior, and suggests that they are hiding something.
9 posted on 04/24/2022 8:04:57 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: DoodleBob

How Predatory Teachers Don’t Stay on the Job

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10 posted on 04/24/2022 9:02:46 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: sphinx
They stay on the job in exactly the same way that predatory priests stayed on the job. Sympathetic superiors, many of them compromised themselves, turned a blind eye, quietly moved the problem cases around when the heat started to build, and justified their negligence by claiming that they were defending the institution.

That’s exactly right. However statistics show that the number of reported abuse and abusers in schools overwhelmingly dwarfs the number of predatory priests and reports of abuse by clergy. Oftentimes when this fact is pointed out, the standard retort is that at least in schools there is no coverup or shuffling around of abusers. As we see from this report, that is a lie.

ALL such abuse is heinous and should not be tolerated in the least. But people should be more well informed and balanced in their opinions.

11 posted on 04/24/2022 9:38:05 AM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domi/i><p>! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia! )
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To: DoodleBob

All unions of government employees should be banned. Giant conflict of interest.


12 posted on 04/24/2022 9:57:44 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Putin is behaving rationally.The war is on Biden and Obama. )
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To: fidelis

I agree on all points.


13 posted on 04/24/2022 10:08:44 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: DoodleBob

Simple. Tenure.


14 posted on 04/24/2022 10:20:34 AM PDT by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her. Merry Christmas! )
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To: Scarlett156; Trillian

I’ve seen awesome teachers let go fo having christian / conservative views and on the flip side I’ve seen teachers in the SAME schools REWARD teachers for sexual misconduct with students (pregancy’s, std’s, assaults and more) and those teachers got PROMOTED or Pay Raises ALL due to the UNIONS


15 posted on 04/24/2022 5:34:42 PM PDT by Conservative4Life (thy merchants were great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. Rev18:23)
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To: Conservative4Life

I would like to encourage you to tell your story. In this thread or elsewhere.

“I’ve seen awesome teachers let go fo having christian / conservative views and on the flip side I’ve seen teachers in the SAME schools REWARD teachers for sexual misconduct with students (pregancy’s, std’s, assaults and more) and those teachers got PROMOTED or Pay Raises ALL due to the UNIONS”

I’ve seen this going on too - as a student, and it was SO LONG AGO. And then when working in mental health in the 1980s/90s.

On the positive side, with my boss in one health care setting we stopped a few miscreants. (Long story.)


16 posted on 04/24/2022 5:39:33 PM PDT by Scarlett156 (Me 3 weeks ago: EVERYONE STOP GOING ON TWATTER. *Elon happens* Me: *goes on twatter twice a day*)
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