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To: Nateman

God alone knows. I am convinced His definition would be different from ours.

I believe there will be “evil” persons in Paradise, ones who have repented before death yet whom most of us would consider to be beyond salvation.

Likewise, I believe there will be “good” persons not in Paradise.

It is either Salvation by Grace or it is not.


6 posted on 04/11/2022 1:06:45 AM PDT by YogicCowboy (I know what I like, and like what I know.)
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To: YogicCowboy
...God alone knows...

Isn't doing evil in the Lord's name the one sin that cannot be forgiven? Old Moe has got everybody beat without any close seconds.

11 posted on 04/11/2022 1:13:36 AM PDT by Nateman (Xi Jinping is the most diabolical enemy Americans has ever had. 🍊)
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To: YogicCowboy
I believe there will be “evil” persons in Paradise, ones who have repented before death yet whom most of us would consider to be beyond salvation.

A pathological liar is someone who is addicted to lying much the same as someone who is addicted to drugs, gambling, etc. This means that the continuous choice to do evil becomes hardened over time into habitual evil. A habitually evil person will not be in heaven even if he cynically 'repents' because God Who created the universe and all life is the only One Who can see into and know the thoughts and motives of all people.

33 posted on 04/11/2022 2:39:02 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: YogicCowboy

There will be 3 surprises in Heaven:
Who is there, who is not and that I am!


38 posted on 04/11/2022 2:52:04 AM PDT by cartoonistx ( the feeling of fainting! )
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To: YogicCowboy

For sure.

Not only that, I have a test for self-righteousness:

Is there anyone who ever lived that you consider yourself better than? Stalin? Hitler? Mohammed?

If you consider yourself more righteous than any of these, it simply means you don’t know your own heart and how sinful it is apart from Christ. Jeremiah 17:9 says, “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” (KJV). Given the right circumstances, each of us is capable of the evil of these others.

So if we think we are more righteous than anyone else, that means we are self-righteous.

When we are saved, we do not know the blackness and darkness of our own hearts. But the more we know Christ Jesus, and His holiness, His righteousness - the more we know our own blackness apart from Him. In His light we see light. We cannot grow in our knowledge of Him and not also grow in the knowledge of our own sinfulness apart from Him.

I have, in myself, not one atom of righteousness. HE IS MY RIGHTEOUSNESS AND I HAVE NO OTHER. And my sins are covered only by His shed blood.

When we face Him, we’ll have nothing in our hands to bring but His blood and righteousness.


85 posted on 04/11/2022 7:03:09 AM PDT by Arlis
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