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Read and barf.

No ipecac needed.

1 posted on 02/19/2022 9:18:42 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

So, we know all these things are going on. We talk about them constantly.

What do we DO?

We avoid the 900 lb gorilla in the room like a plague. We all know what we need to do and none of us want to do it.

I am reminded how hard the colonists tried to get king George to just recognize their pleas to him for reasonable discorse and concessions. He refused. They reluctantly went to war for the next 8 1/2 years and an additional four years of occupation of New York after the british defeat at Yorktown by Washington’s 8,000 men of the Continental Army.


2 posted on 02/19/2022 9:31:45 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.I ha)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Fifth Amendment

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, .without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

3 posted on 02/19/2022 9:31:52 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
I don't think I'd have the patience to go through all that court crap.

I'd be tempted to "settle accounts" more quickly.

4 posted on 02/19/2022 9:33:55 AM PST by G Larry (Tolerance will rise until intelligent people are banned from thinking to avoid offending imbeciles)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Maybe they’re Canadians.


5 posted on 02/19/2022 9:50:27 AM PST by chopperk
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To: DUMBGRUNT

EXACTLY why I didn’t want Hillary to win in 2016 and I still have NO RESPECT for so-called ‘conservatives’ who either supported her outright or indirectly supported her by telling people they wouldn’t vote for Trump (and implying that neither should they).

If we’re going to end this OUTRIGHT THEFT of Americans, with no due process, it won’t be Democrats, or Democrat judges ending it...


8 posted on 02/19/2022 10:04:30 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

It’s even easier now for the Feds to win a case when the defendant has no money for counsel. The money seized can be used to defame the victim in the press and pay off journalists for favorable coverage before indictments and trail. No wonder Feds have 95% conviction rates.
The federal police state agencies are beyond repair. The federal government needs to implode.
Revoking qualified immunity for Feds would help.


10 posted on 02/19/2022 10:09:02 AM PST by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by non-compliance; jury and state nullification. )
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One associated problem with civil forfeiture, is it gives cops an incentive to go after people with funds to seize, and ignore bumps with no assets to fine or seize.


11 posted on 02/19/2022 10:12:04 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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Time to start putting money under the mattress and buried in jars in the yard - like my grandmother did.


13 posted on 02/19/2022 10:14:36 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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15 posted on 02/19/2022 10:45:26 AM PST by Delta 21 (It started as a virus, and mutated into an IQ test.)
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“In most states and at the federal level, police and prosecutors get to keep up to 100 percent of the proceeds. So they just have a very strong incentive to go out and seize whatever they can and try to forfeit it so that they can supplement their budget.” Those assets then find their way into police slush funds, where they may be spent on things like submachine guns, parking tickets, or cash withdrawals that no one seems to be able to explain.
***Exactly what some of us were saying when these laws were being passed, but were loudly shouted down here on FR. Where are those jackbootlickers now?


16 posted on 02/19/2022 11:50:30 AM PST by Kevmo (I’m immunue from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Thank you, Richard Nixon...

Your weakness in the face of the communist onslaught in congress gave us lots of wonderful goodies successfully wielded over the intervening to get us the communists who now rule us...

As just a small example:
- The RICO act...
- The Environmental Agency...
- School busing...


17 posted on 02/19/2022 11:53:05 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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Obviously we need the feds to go after the cartels. Otherwise, this country will be like Mexico. But yeah we need to rein in the feds when they go after “John Doe”.


18 posted on 02/19/2022 12:00:38 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Qualified immunity is an abomination to a republic.

If law enforcement can't act within the confines of the law that we are expected to, then we do not have a functional judiciary.

And to barter a reduction of the money they stole from civil asset forfeiture proves it is sh!t legal contemplation.

23 posted on 02/20/2022 10:34:37 AM PST by SERE_DOC ( The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. TJ)
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