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AG Herring: Virginia Beach police used forged documents to secure cooperation, confessions in interrogations
WAVY ^ | Sarah Fearing

Posted on 01/13/2022 8:52:52 AM PST by BenLurkin

According to Herring’s office, on at least five occasions between March 2016 and February 2020, the Virginia Beach Police Department used forged documents they said were from the Virginia Department of Forensic Science to get the confessions or cooperation during interrogations.

The practice was revealed in April 2021 when an assistant commonwealth’s attorney asked the DFS to provide a certified copy of a forged document — which the DFS never created or was aware of.

Not only were the fraudulent documents used at least five times, but in at least one instance, a forged document was used in court as evidence. The documents generally showed a suspect’s DNA was found in connection with a crime. The documents included a seal, letterhead, contact information, and, on two documents, a signature of a fictitious DFS employee.

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1 posted on 01/13/2022 8:52:52 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

I sure hope a few folks go to jail over this.


2 posted on 01/13/2022 8:54:36 AM PST by Reno89519 (FJB. Respect America, Embrace America, Buy American, Hire American.)
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To: Reno89519

Yes, they should do a full audit, fire, charge, convict, and jail anyone that used fake documents in any manner.


3 posted on 01/13/2022 8:56:29 AM PST by Reno89519 (FJB. Respect America, Embrace America, Buy American, Hire American.)
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To: BenLurkin

Well, sure, if you tell the police it is perfectly fine to lie to people in order to trick them into confessing, then this is just a natural progression of that.


4 posted on 01/13/2022 8:56:49 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: BenLurkin

Always subpoena anyone who signs documents.


5 posted on 01/13/2022 8:56:58 AM PST by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: BenLurkin

And yet Ben Crump still walks free after putting a fake Diamond Eugene in court.


6 posted on 01/13/2022 8:58:15 AM PST by struggle
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To: BenLurkin

The Supreme Court has already ruled that the police can lie to you. Was that a good ruling? I dunno. But I suppose the police think forged documents are just another form of lying.

Anyway, here are two handy steps to remember when being interrogated by the police.

Step 1: Say “I want a lawyer.” Say nothing else.
Step 2: Go back and repeat Step 1.

And here’s a good video on the topic. The narrator (a law professor) explains how you can get in trouble talking to the police even when you’re both innocent and 100% truthful.

https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE


7 posted on 01/13/2022 9:02:20 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Reno89519
It's not illegal for the cops to lie to a suspect. But I would think any conviction based on a confession extracted from such methods should be thrown out. However, if lying convinces a suspect to provide other corroborating evidence, that evidence should be admitted.

You're not supposed to talk to the police without an attorney, and if someone is stupid enough to do so, that's on them.

Convictions where fake documents were submitted to a court should be thrown out and the police and prosecutors responsible should be arrested and charged with perjury and criminal contempt.

8 posted on 01/13/2022 9:06:54 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: BenLurkin

Everyone knows is ok for cops to lie trying to get confessions.


9 posted on 01/13/2022 9:17:14 AM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: Leaning Right

Here’s what else you can to the cops: “I got nothing to say.”


10 posted on 01/13/2022 9:18:32 AM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: Reno89519

“I sure hope a few folks go to jail over this.”

More likely they’ll get seven days off with pay.


11 posted on 01/13/2022 9:24:40 AM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: null and void

Jackboot ping


12 posted on 01/13/2022 9:26:04 AM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: struggle

“And yet Ben Crump still walks free after putting a fake Diamond Eugene in court.”

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And, did it with full knowledge and cooperation of a corrupt State Attorney.


13 posted on 01/13/2022 9:28:45 AM PST by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Slamming dat white cracka'a head into dat sidewalk causin he be scared)
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To: pierrem15
That is a problem, if cops can lie, why can't innocent citizens? And up until a court convicts them, they are innocent.

No, cops should be fired and prosecuted for lying. No exceptions. Include any and all management that knew or approved of the practice.

14 posted on 01/13/2022 9:30:39 AM PST by Reno89519 (FJB. Respect America, Embrace America, Buy American, Hire American.)
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To: BenLurkin

Somebody remind me again how the police are your friends.

They protect and service whoever signs their paychecks.

Remember that.


15 posted on 01/13/2022 9:34:56 AM PST by Hammerhead
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To: BenLurkin

In my day, we would just say: “No s....., Dick Tracy!”

Certainly not a surprise...
The FBI does a lot worse; I suspect...


16 posted on 01/13/2022 9:36:58 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: BenLurkin

two days before he leaves office and NOW we hear about this?


17 posted on 01/13/2022 9:40:03 AM PST by AdSimp
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To: Reno89519

They already have because of the false evidence.


18 posted on 01/13/2022 9:45:32 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Do we value what the Founding Fathers gave us enough to fight for it?)
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To: BenLurkin

...but in at least one instance, a forged document was used in court as evidence.

Hey, if it’s good enough for the FBI, it’s good enough for the Virginia Beach PD.


19 posted on 01/13/2022 9:55:00 AM PST by Flick Lives
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To: Boogieman
Here's a lie that I told.

I contacted a victim who reported that a ring worth 5,000 dollars was stolen when she threw a party. She said it had been in her dresser upstairs. There was a bathroom that people used, and they needed to pass by the dresser when they used the bathroom. She had a suspect in mind and she had her phone number. She said all she wanted was to get the ring back and she would drop the matter.

I called the woman she suspected and I told her that a ring was stolen and that the victim wanted it back with no questions asked. I also told her that we had fingerprints. (This was the lie. I had no evidence.) I hung up and waited. A couple of minutes later the phone rang. The victim answered and the caller said that the ring would be returned to her.

20 posted on 01/13/2022 10:20:07 AM PST by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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