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Nio ET5 promises colossal 620-mile range – but miles ain't miles By Loz Blain December 21, 2021
https://newatlas.com ^ | DECEMBER 21, 2021 | By Loz Blain

Posted on 12/22/2021 8:36:48 AM PST by Red Badger

Chinese electric vehicle brand Nio has debuted a new mid-size family sedan with a battery option for all-day driving. The ET5 can be specified with an "ultra long range" pack that delivers up to 1,000 km of driving – although all might not be as it seems.

The ET5 will be a sprightly drive, with peaks of 360 kW (483 horsepower) and 700 Nm (516 lb-ft) through a two-motor AWD system. It'll hit 100 km/h (62 mph) in 4.3 seconds from a standing start, which will handily see off most combustion cars at the lights.

It's got a tidy cabin, a nice big 12.8-inch touchscreen, a 7.1.4 surround sound system, mood lighting, a panoramic sunroof extending into a sweet fastback and a generally classy, understated sort of look about it. It's got a voice assistant called Nomi, which is "now smarter and funnier" – I wish I could say the same about myself. You can bring along a set of goggles or glasses, and it'll treat you to an "immersive AR/VR panoramic in-car experience," if you're into that sort of thing.

It aspires to autonomy, and while Nio doesn't make it abundantly clear exactly what it'll be capable of doing for itself when it hits buyers' garages in September 2022, it's got enough "Nio Aquila Super Sensing" and "Nio Adam Super Computing" to do the job when software and regulations allow. Nio will switch on the "Nio Autonomous Driving," or NAD, system in stages as a subscription service. So customers are going to have to rent their own NADs; truly we are living in the future.

So far, so electric car. The ET5's banner feature, though, is its battery pack. Not the standard 75-kWh one, mind you, or the 100-kWh long range pack. ...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society; Sports; Travel
KEYWORDS: automotive; china; electriccars; ev; fakenews; madeinchina; nio; nioet5; redchina
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1 posted on 12/22/2021 8:36:48 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

It even looks Chinese.


2 posted on 12/22/2021 8:38:10 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Red Badger

Give a headwind or winter and miles won’t be miles.


3 posted on 12/22/2021 8:44:56 AM PST by Jonty30 (I love giving directions, because it is likeearh me to tell people where to go and how to get there.)
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To: Red Badger
It looks neat, but the Chinese are the most prolific exaggerators when it comes to specifications. Typically, when I buy Chinese lithium-ion cells from eBay or even Amazon and test them with an analyzer designed to calculate capacity I am pleasantly surprised if they have even half the advertised capacity.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013HP4N70/

4 posted on 12/22/2021 8:46:17 AM PST by fireman15
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To: fireman15

Same as with EPA ratings, though. The situation in which you get that mileage does not even remotely resemble the real world.

Did you need the heater/defroster? Range reduced. Load is higher than when tested? Range reduced. Hills? Wind? Cold?


5 posted on 12/22/2021 8:50:02 AM PST by ferret_airlift
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To: unixfox

Your sense of humor…love it.


6 posted on 12/22/2021 8:51:57 AM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: Red Badger

620 mile range, but it has to be mostly downhill.


7 posted on 12/22/2021 8:56:32 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: unixfox

Chinese ripoff of a Tesla that is:-)


8 posted on 12/22/2021 8:59:11 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: Red Badger

“So customers are going to have to rent their own NADs...”

Obviously something not picked up during translation...


9 posted on 12/22/2021 9:02:59 AM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: PLMerite

LOL!........................Imagine calling a repairman!..............


10 posted on 12/22/2021 9:04:50 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Downhill? That should work well in our current economic climate.


11 posted on 12/22/2021 9:05:05 AM PST by oldasrocks
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To: ferret_airlift
Did you need the heater/defroster? Range reduced. Load is higher than when tested? Range reduced. Hills? Wind? Cold?

All very true, but if the Chinese claim a battery of cells has 100-kWh of capacity in my long years of experience testing Chinese Li-Ion cells, that likely translates to around 50-kWh of capacity.

12 posted on 12/22/2021 9:21:20 AM PST by fireman15
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To: Red Badger

If their cars have the same quality as their tires, I would take a pass.


13 posted on 12/22/2021 9:21:52 AM PST by Signalman (HA)
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To: Red Badger
The one really deceptive thing about max range numbers is that they may not be what you think. If it says 620 mile range that does not mean you can get in it, point it at the horizon and go 620 miles. The range testing standards include a mix of some pure highway miles and some start/stop miles.

Since virtually all (or really all?) EVs now have regenerative braking systems, in start/stop driving the "stop" part is free. Actually, all the miles decelerating are not only free, but are giving back some range. So while you might get 600 miles of mixed rural/urban driving that included a fair amount of slowing down (regenerative charging), just hitting the interstate, even at modest speeds, you're going to get fewer miles of range.

I'd like the range tests to start breaking out numbers into multiple categories. Pure highway - step on it at say 60 or 65 mph, how far does it go. Pure urban/city driving - block to block, in-town kind of thing. Rural driving, some start/stop, modest say 45 mph speeds. Aside from those three numbers it would be nice to have some way of factoring in air conditioning and heating use.

For me, just running around town on a typical day I might need all of 40 to 50 miles of range. On any given day this might include some heat or AC, often in the same day. ;-) Even a low-end Chevy Bolt would do that easily. I'd have to charge up maybe twice a week. Of course being me I'd probably plug it in every evening just to keep it topped off. But then every once in a while there would be those 230 mile days that included 175 or so miles of 65 mph highway driving, some of them pre-dawn implying headlights and heat. That's going to be too much for a Bolt. In fact probably too much for most low end EVs, all of which cost $5K to $10K more than my car. I'd have to plan in a couple of hours break for charging to get home. Which is why I'm still driving a plain gas powered economy car.

In the end though, this is still a Chinese car. No thanks.

14 posted on 12/22/2021 9:23:09 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Biden/Harris - illegitimate and everyone knows it.)
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in start/stop driving the "stop" part is free.

Not exactly.........................

15 posted on 12/22/2021 9:25:31 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: unixfox

Note the color.

I know you did not mean that.


16 posted on 12/22/2021 9:26:29 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: Red Badger

My benchmark is Nissan Leaf with a ~25kWh battery good for about 100 miles. That’s about as minimal a car as is viable for normal runabout use (yes, qualifications apply - it’s a baseline).

100kWh battery this gives an optimistic 400 mile range - and they’re claiming 50% beyond that. You’re looking at serious reduction in safety structure to eliminate enough weight for that, expending a measly 166Wh per mile (vs 250Wh for Leaf).

I’ll grant the vehicle is likely viable, given current tech and living standards of China - unacceptable in first world countries.

“Sure you can buy a hamburger for $1, but then you’d have to eat it.”


17 posted on 12/22/2021 9:26:59 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Statistics don't matter when they happen to you.)
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To: unixfox

LOL. Thought you were kidding.


18 posted on 12/22/2021 9:27:21 AM PST by Stentor ( )
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Does it say 620 miles per charge?

Or 620 miles total life of the car?


19 posted on 12/22/2021 9:27:37 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: fireman15

That’s a polite way of saying that they are pathological liars.


20 posted on 12/22/2021 9:27:50 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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