Posted on 12/22/2021 8:36:48 AM PST by Red Badger
Chinese electric vehicle brand Nio has debuted a new mid-size family sedan with a battery option for all-day driving. The ET5 can be specified with an "ultra long range" pack that delivers up to 1,000 km of driving – although all might not be as it seems.
The ET5 will be a sprightly drive, with peaks of 360 kW (483 horsepower) and 700 Nm (516 lb-ft) through a two-motor AWD system. It'll hit 100 km/h (62 mph) in 4.3 seconds from a standing start, which will handily see off most combustion cars at the lights.
It's got a tidy cabin, a nice big 12.8-inch touchscreen, a 7.1.4 surround sound system, mood lighting, a panoramic sunroof extending into a sweet fastback and a generally classy, understated sort of look about it. It's got a voice assistant called Nomi, which is "now smarter and funnier" – I wish I could say the same about myself. You can bring along a set of goggles or glasses, and it'll treat you to an "immersive AR/VR panoramic in-car experience," if you're into that sort of thing.
It aspires to autonomy, and while Nio doesn't make it abundantly clear exactly what it'll be capable of doing for itself when it hits buyers' garages in September 2022, it's got enough "Nio Aquila Super Sensing" and "Nio Adam Super Computing" to do the job when software and regulations allow. Nio will switch on the "Nio Autonomous Driving," or NAD, system in stages as a subscription service. So customers are going to have to rent their own NADs; truly we are living in the future.
So far, so electric car. The ET5's banner feature, though, is its battery pack. Not the standard 75-kWh one, mind you, or the 100-kWh long range pack. ...
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It even looks Chinese.
Give a headwind or winter and miles won’t be miles.
Same as with EPA ratings, though. The situation in which you get that mileage does not even remotely resemble the real world.
Did you need the heater/defroster? Range reduced. Load is higher than when tested? Range reduced. Hills? Wind? Cold?
Your sense of humor…love it.
620 mile range, but it has to be mostly downhill.
Chinese ripoff of a Tesla that is:-)
“So customers are going to have to rent their own NADs...”
Obviously something not picked up during translation...
LOL!........................Imagine calling a repairman!..............
Downhill? That should work well in our current economic climate.
All very true, but if the Chinese claim a battery of cells has 100-kWh of capacity in my long years of experience testing Chinese Li-Ion cells, that likely translates to around 50-kWh of capacity.
If their cars have the same quality as their tires, I would take a pass.
Since virtually all (or really all?) EVs now have regenerative braking systems, in start/stop driving the "stop" part is free. Actually, all the miles decelerating are not only free, but are giving back some range. So while you might get 600 miles of mixed rural/urban driving that included a fair amount of slowing down (regenerative charging), just hitting the interstate, even at modest speeds, you're going to get fewer miles of range.
I'd like the range tests to start breaking out numbers into multiple categories. Pure highway - step on it at say 60 or 65 mph, how far does it go. Pure urban/city driving - block to block, in-town kind of thing. Rural driving, some start/stop, modest say 45 mph speeds. Aside from those three numbers it would be nice to have some way of factoring in air conditioning and heating use.
For me, just running around town on a typical day I might need all of 40 to 50 miles of range. On any given day this might include some heat or AC, often in the same day. ;-) Even a low-end Chevy Bolt would do that easily. I'd have to charge up maybe twice a week. Of course being me I'd probably plug it in every evening just to keep it topped off. But then every once in a while there would be those 230 mile days that included 175 or so miles of 65 mph highway driving, some of them pre-dawn implying headlights and heat. That's going to be too much for a Bolt. In fact probably too much for most low end EVs, all of which cost $5K to $10K more than my car. I'd have to plan in a couple of hours break for charging to get home. Which is why I'm still driving a plain gas powered economy car.
In the end though, this is still a Chinese car. No thanks.
Not exactly.........................
Note the color.
I know you did not mean that.
My benchmark is Nissan Leaf with a ~25kWh battery good for about 100 miles. That’s about as minimal a car as is viable for normal runabout use (yes, qualifications apply - it’s a baseline).
100kWh battery this gives an optimistic 400 mile range - and they’re claiming 50% beyond that. You’re looking at serious reduction in safety structure to eliminate enough weight for that, expending a measly 166Wh per mile (vs 250Wh for Leaf).
I’ll grant the vehicle is likely viable, given current tech and living standards of China - unacceptable in first world countries.
“Sure you can buy a hamburger for $1, but then you’d have to eat it.”
LOL. Thought you were kidding.
Does it say 620 miles per charge?
Or 620 miles total life of the car?
That’s a polite way of saying that they are pathological liars.
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