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American History - The Pilgrims learned of socialism’s dangers: Why can’t we?
Christian Post ^ | 11/06/2021 | Jerry Newcombe

Posted on 11/06/2021 10:24:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Socialism, one of history’s worst ideas, has been disproved repeatedly and without exception. Yet it keeps rearing its ugly head — constantly being rebranded as a good idea.

Truth is, socialism only benefits the ruling class who implement this form of government theft.

Amazingly, early America had an experiment in socialism. The Pilgrim settlers tried socialism for two years — and it nearly killed them.

In his book, Socialism: The True History from Plato to the Present, William J. Federer quotes the socialistic bylaws imposed on the Pilgrims by those London merchants who funded the creation of their colony. Under this agreement with these investors, the members of Plymouth Colony agreed to pool all their goods, and all the rewards of their labor, with each person being entitled to an equal share of it. No matter how hard or little you worked, you would get the same.

For our Providence Forum documentary , “The Pilgrims,” we interviewed Leo Martin, the founder of the Jenney Museum (Learning Center) in Plymouth.

Martin told me, “So now the Pilgrims come over here virtually in a socialistic situation, a communal living, where everybody at the plantation worked in the same field, grew their food, then at the end of the season, they simply evenly split with each other what they produced.”

We also interviewed Dennis Prager, founder of PragerU, for this special. He told me, “The Pilgrims did experiment with socialism or communalism, and they realized it didn’t work. It is against human nature. The moment you tell people that the community will take care of you, they work less. It undermines character.”

And that is precisely what happened. Governor William Bradford, the leader of the Pilgrims, who was their governor for about three decades, was also their key chronicler. His book, Of Plymouth Plantation, documents their amazing story , which includes the first Thanksgiving — the 400th anniversary of which we celebrate this month.

Bradford called some of the Pilgrim leaders together to, in our modern parlance, brainstorm on how to increase the production of their corn. The conclusion was to abolish this “common stock” stipulation, instead of giving each person or family their own land and letting them enjoy the fruits of their labor without being forced to work for others, so “that they might not still thus languish in misery.”

It worked. Abandoning socialism and implementing private land ownership and free enterprise increased production dramatically.

Bradford writes, “This had very good success, for it made all hands very industrious … The women now went willingly into the field, and took their little ones with them to set corn; which before would allege weakness and inability; whom to have compelled would have been thought great tyranny and oppression.”

Bradford admits that they had fallen for “the vanity of that conceit of Plato's … as if they were wiser than God.” Plato is credited with being the first to present socialism — holding property in common.

When the Ten Commandments say, “Thou shalt not steal” (which implies the existence of private property), God does not add the stipulation, “unless thou art the government.” Socialism is theft by the government, taking by force what one has earned to redistribute it to one who has not earned it.

We give thanks that the Pilgrims learned of the bankruptcy of socialism before it was too late.

Leo Martin says it is a great thing that the Pilgrims abandoned socialism when they did because it helped them become productive and prosperous. Martin notes, “Did you know that today 10% of the population of the United States are Mayflower descendants? 30 million people from 51.”

The Pilgrims were so grateful for what God had done for them that they set aside time to thank Him for His many blessings. Thanksgiving is an annual holiday reminding us of our nation’s Christian roots.

But socialism not only undercuts productivity. It undercuts thanksgiving to God.

Jesus said we are to pray to “Our Father which art in Heaven.” Socialism teaches, in effect, that we should pray, “Our Father which art in Washington” as we depend on the government to provide for more and more of our needs.

The Pilgrims were godly people who sacrificed all their comforts so they could worship Jesus in the purity of the Gospel. They were very caring people who sought to fulfill the command to “love thy neighbor as thyself.”

If the Pilgrims found that socialism didn’t work even for them, how can we expect socialism to work for anybody, including those who are just selfish and waiting to get by off the sweat of their neighbor’s brow? In short, once again, socialism proved to be a bad idea.

Isn’t it time humanity learned this repeated lesson from history once and for all? Socialism never ceases to fail everywhere it is tried.


Jerry Newcombe, D.Min., is the executive director of the Providence Forum, an outreach of D. James Kennedy Ministries, where Jerry also serves as senior producer and an on-air host. He has written/co-written 33 books, including George Washington’s Sacred Fire (with Providence Forum founder Peter Lillback, Ph.D.) and What If Jesus Had Never Been Born? (with D. James Kennedy, Ph.D.).


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; History; Society
KEYWORDS: pilgrims; socialism

1 posted on 11/06/2021 10:24:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Great post! This info should be discussed at the Thanksgiving dinner!


2 posted on 11/06/2021 10:29:31 AM PDT by keving (We the government )
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To: SeekAndFind

Great post! This info should be discussed at the Thanksgiving dinner!


3 posted on 11/06/2021 10:29:34 AM PDT by keving (We the government )
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To: SeekAndFind

Great post! This info should be discussed at the Thanksgiving dinner!


4 posted on 11/06/2021 10:29:40 AM PDT by keving (We the government )
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To: SeekAndFind

Great post! This info should be discussed at the Thanksgiving dinner!


5 posted on 11/06/2021 10:29:41 AM PDT by keving (We the government )
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American History - The Pilgrims learned of socialism’s dangers: Why can’t we?

In the case of the Pilgrims it came to a point where it was either live or die, and they quickly decided to end this failed experiment. In our case the effects of pain is not bad enough yet for people wanting to change. The only time people are willing to change is, when something severely impacts their pocket books or their health and we are not quite there yet.


6 posted on 11/06/2021 10:34:41 AM PDT by saintgermaine (Saintgermain the time traveler)
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To: keving

So, given you posted the same comment four times, would I be correct to believe that you would like this discussed at the Thanksgiving dinner? 😉


7 posted on 11/06/2021 10:41:52 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (Ceterum autem censeo Justinius True-dope-us esse delendam)
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Sadly, I have to agree with your comment.

Too few people do not remember the mistakes of the past, and must repeat the same mistakes, to learn.


8 posted on 11/06/2021 10:50:01 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (Ceterum autem censeo Justinius True-dope-us esse delendam)
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9 posted on 11/06/2021 10:59:24 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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Not quite at the live or die situation. Plus, people do not like change and life is good and people are soft, weak and government dependent.


10 posted on 11/06/2021 11:06:10 AM PDT by mulligan (an En bbnnEeThe to)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not quite at the live or die situation. Plus, people do not like change and life is good and people are soft, weak and government dependent.


11 posted on 11/06/2021 11:06:10 AM PDT by mulligan (an En bbnnEeThe to)
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Refuse to learn from history must learn first hand:


12 posted on 11/06/2021 11:27:19 AM PDT by conservativeimage (Spark up a fire. Light up this place. Burn out this darkness and tear down the fear.)
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Oh yeah! It's the time of year when bad neocon historians tell lies about the Pilgrims

...the first Thanksgiving — the 400th anniversary of which we celebrate this month.

And there it is! I sometimes wonder what it's going to take to finally stamp out this stupid myth.

Martin notes, “Did you know that today 10% of the population of the United States are Mayflower descendants? 30 million people from 51.”

How many more are descended from the much larger pool of colonists already living in Virginia at that time (who were also already celebrating Thanksgiving)?

BTW, if the author wasn't so lackadaisical in his citation, he'd have noticed that his "Of Plymouth Plantation" link redirects to restricted content not accessible outside of the UMich environment. That is a common mistake made by students.

13 posted on 11/06/2021 12:58:36 PM PDT by Brass Lamp
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This will be our 400th Thanksgiving. Make it a great one because it may be our last.


14 posted on 11/06/2021 7:00:20 PM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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To: keving

You can say that again, and again, and again!


15 posted on 11/06/2021 7:00:51 PM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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