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alexberenson.substack.com ^ | October 29, 2021 | Alex Berenson

Posted on 10/30/2021 3:43:15 PM PDT by ransomnote

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1 posted on 10/30/2021 3:43:15 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Cathi; Unrepentant VN Vet; metmom; Fractal Trader; SecAmndmt; bagster; doc maverick; ...

PING


2 posted on 10/30/2021 3:43:43 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

Alex Berenson is a national treasure.


3 posted on 10/30/2021 3:49:35 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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To: Jane Long

He seems smart and understands the science well and is articulate and writes well.

Yet, he makes an invalid distinction here about what amounts to “...hijacking the body’s own fundamental processes of biological creation.”

He continues:

“AND OUR BODIES DO NOT LIKE HAVING THEIR FUNDAMENTAL PROCESSES OF BIOLOGICAL CREATION HIJACKED. NOT BY VIRUSES, AND NOT BY SCIENTISTS. They fight the process at every step. This is why we have immune systems.”

Yes, but the same is true for the drugs he deems OK (e.g. here erythropoietin and aspirin) as for the gene therapy vaccines.

It’s in fact true for every drug, including aspirin.

There is no distinction. The issue is one of clinical science and corruption and regulatory integrity, not the physical nature of the therapeutic.


4 posted on 10/30/2021 4:13:57 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ransomnote

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5 posted on 10/30/2021 4:17:52 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: ifinnegan

“Yet, he makes an invalid distinction here about what amounts to ‘...hijacking the body’s own fundamental processes of biological creation.’

You’re going to spoil the vax paranoia game if you start telling people that mRNA is something your body uses every day to make proteins.

The fear porn sells better if the letters mRNA remain mysterious and scary and something that greedy mad scientists conjured up in order to kill us all.


6 posted on 10/30/2021 4:47:46 PM PDT by Pelham (The Catlady School of Medicine. Pretense is prerequisite.)
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To: ifinnegan; Pelham
You two knuckleheads need to stop acting like you know better than this guy.

Its embarrassing.


7 posted on 10/30/2021 5:15:20 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: ifinnegan

A simple molecule binding to a receptor is arguably different from a larger molecule mimicking a protein.

Your issue of clinical science and corruption and integrity comes in because most of the simple molecules are off-patent such that it is not as easy to print money with them as it is with a new (untested) mRNA product.

Incidentally, you might enjoy these articles on Moderna...

https://www.statnews.com/2016/09/13/moderna-therapeutics-biotech-mrna/

https://www.barnhardt.biz/2021/08/11/thermonuclear-for-aggressive-distribution-september-arsh-2016-article-on-moderna-that-is-one-of-the-most-damning-things-i-have-ever-read/

https://www.statnews.com/2017/01/10/moderna-trouble-mrna/

One of those might point to another, I’m in too much of a hurry to double-check right now.


8 posted on 10/30/2021 5:17:23 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: bagster

Sorry, but I do.

I also in no way criticized Berenson. He seems non-hysterical and knowledgeable.

I am glad to have been introduced to his writing.


9 posted on 10/30/2021 5:18:29 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: grey_whiskers

“Your issue of clinical science and corruption and integrity comes in because most of the simple molecules are off-patent such that it is not as easy to print money with them as it is with a new (untested) mRNA product.”

That can happen as easily with new small molecule drugs.


10 posted on 10/30/2021 5:20:29 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan
Sorry, but I do.

Oh, yea?

I think its time for a....


11 posted on 10/30/2021 5:43:16 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: ifinnegan

As the article explained, aspirin and other simpler medications may need to be taken several times a day before they work. IOW, they’re temporary. This experimental shot requires repeated injections in a year, which means they’re much more consequential to our bodies/systems. Don’t be so dismissive of ppl’s hesitancy when it comes to getting a “vaccine” that’s been rolled out quickly and without longterm testing, especially since it apparently doesn’t even work!


12 posted on 10/30/2021 6:08:07 PM PDT by Prince of Space ( Let’s go, Brandon! )
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To: Prince of Space

I did not dismiss anyone’s hesitancy or criticize the point you reiterate about small molecule mechanism vs other mechanisms of biological therapeutics.


13 posted on 10/30/2021 6:12:44 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Pelham
As Berenson wrote: “A 40,000-person clinical trial may sound large, it is not, not in the context of a drug that governments are going to give (or more accurately force) on BILLIONS of healthy people. In 1954, the Salk polio vaccine trial covered almost two million children - yes, 2,000,000 - including 400,000 who received the vaccine. And polio was far more dangerous to children than Sars-Cov-2.”

Just for context.

14 posted on 10/30/2021 6:18:55 PM PDT by Prince of Space ( Let’s go, Brandon! )
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To: grey_whiskers

You still pretending to be a doctor?


15 posted on 10/30/2021 6:18:58 PM PDT by Pelham (The Catlady School of Medicine. Pretense is prerequisite.)
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To: Prince of Space

“especially since it apparently doesn’t even work!”

Really? When did it stop working on all of the covid variants other than delta?


16 posted on 10/30/2021 6:21:44 PM PDT by Pelham (The Catlady School of Medicine. Pretense is prerequisite.)
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To: ifinnegan

When pro-vaxxers participate in discussions here about the efficacy of the “vaccine” and the side effects from the shot, it’s usually in a patronizing and/or denigrating manner. I apologize if you’re not one of those ppl. The bottom line is that if ppl wanna get the shot, no one is stopping them; and if they don’t want it, it’s nobody else’s business.


17 posted on 10/30/2021 6:25:19 PM PDT by Prince of Space ( Let’s go, Brandon! )
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To: Prince of Space

“The bottom line is that if ppl wanna get the shot, no one is stopping them; and if they don’t want it, it’s nobody else’s business.”

100% my view also from day one.

I think some people don’t like I point out inanities, hysteria and other things relating to vax fear-mongering cottage industry.

It’s just another form of covud profiteering.


18 posted on 10/30/2021 6:31:05 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan; bagster; ransomnote

I am glad to have been introduced to his writing.


Looks like you are recently ‘introduced’ to Berenson’s writing.

Most, here, have been reading his writings since he was fired from NY (last year) Times, for telling the TRUTH, about the lies of china flu and these risky shots.

Tucker Carlson had Alex on his show, regularly, last year....when Alex wrote his pamphlet explaining the above.

I’ll take Alex’s word, over your anonymous FR smear postings, of Alex, any day.


19 posted on 10/30/2021 6:31:15 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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To: Prince of Space

So in your opinion the 2 million Salk sample provided better data than what’s been acquired from billions given the covid vaxxes; is that what you’re saying?

Just for “context” the 2 million given the Salk vaccine were also healthy. Not sure why you think that the health of those given the vax is a point.


20 posted on 10/30/2021 6:31:33 PM PDT by Pelham (The Catlady School of Medicine. Pretense is prerequisite.)
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