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New Force of Nature? Tantalizing Evidence for New Physics From CERN’s Large Hadron Collider
UNIVERSITY OF CAMBRIDGE ^ | OCTOBER 26, 2021 | HARRY CLIFF

Posted on 10/29/2021 5:05:04 AM PDT by Kevmo

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To: Lurker

“Have any astronomers actually proven this stuff exists?”

Their model is a continually shifting bag of assertions that change when new data is discovered to change the model.


21 posted on 10/29/2021 7:09:47 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Lazamataz

I don’t see any beauty quarks on her…..


22 posted on 10/29/2021 7:12:59 AM PDT by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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To: Kevmo

I wonder how long it’s going to take the Chicoms to get their hands on that collider.


23 posted on 10/29/2021 7:27:01 AM PDT by Rappini (Compromise has its place. It's called second.)
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To: BipolarBob

Upton quark?


24 posted on 10/29/2021 7:54:33 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: Kevmo

Since it started out as the Bottom Quark instead of calling it the Beauty Quark, shouldn’t they call it the Booty Quark?


25 posted on 10/29/2021 7:56:14 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: MRadtke

I think this is just bad physics terminology like spin not really meaning spin. Any time a particle changes into other particles the physicists call it decay.


26 posted on 10/29/2021 7:59:09 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: Kevmo; 6SJ7; AdmSmith; AFPhys; Arkinsaw; allmost; aristotleman; autumnraine; bajabaja; ...
Thanks Kevmo.


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27 posted on 10/29/2021 8:39:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Lurker

# Have any astronomers actually proven this stuff exists?

No. It is inferred. Personally, I don’t buy it.


28 posted on 10/29/2021 9:54:34 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Nateman

In the very beginning expansion phase of our universe, many things were faster than light. The universe itself expanded faster than light, primarily because matter wasn’t yet matter and light wasn’t yet light.

In fact, there is evidence that light itself was faster than light, that it is a decaying function — well after the initial expansion phase. https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2270920/posts


29 posted on 10/29/2021 9:57:45 AM PDT by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: week 71

Stay on the path and search for new God created forces.
***Yes, well said. I wonder how soon we’ll see the discovery of the force that holds dark matter in its place.


30 posted on 10/29/2021 10:00:33 AM PDT by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: Kevmo

Indeed! I love science. The search for Dark Matter always draws my attention.


31 posted on 10/29/2021 11:20:52 AM PDT by week 71
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To: Kevmo
"...our new result, yet to be peer reviewed, from CERN’s gargantuan particle collider seems to be adding further support to the idea."

"To get there, we need to reduce the size of the error, and to do this we need more data."

Translation:
Probably another of those "famous" disappearing discoveries...
Please keep giving us those billions of euros so we can fiddle around with old data some more...
We do need a bigger version of the LHCb...
We looked at the data and broke out in the particle-physics song: "You are so beautiful"...

In my day, we'd have used the term GIGO...

32 posted on 10/29/2021 11:57:20 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: Lazamataz

Kate confounds scientists by being simultaneously an beauty/bottom, innie/middle and beauty/top characteristics.


33 posted on 10/29/2021 12:55:47 PM PDT by Sparticus (Primary the Tuesday group!)
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To: Kevmo

It is not as in the old days when you could remember the author of a paper. The authors from the LHCb collaboration are listed in small print on pages 17 - 20 https://arxiv.org/pdf/2110.09501.pdf


34 posted on 10/29/2021 1:09:40 PM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

OK, thanks. I didn’t realize that. So could it be that when that quark decays into an electron (about 200 times lighter than a muon), that electron is moving very fast as opposed to a muon it would change into? To “make up” for the missing mass, so to speak?


35 posted on 10/30/2021 7:33:27 AM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: MRadtke
Somewhere there is probably a list, or better yet diagram, that shows all of the ways that particles can change into other particles. I have a book called QED written by Feynman that has a few of the more simple ones. However, it is an introduction and doesn't detail how mass, spin, energy, charge, and momentum are conserved.

BTW, it turns out that due to the uncertainties of quantum mechanics that the number of possible particle transformations is infinite leading to infinities showing up in a lot of the equations. These pesky infinities have to be "normalized" out of the equations in order for them to be useful. This is still a somewhat controversial procedure to this day. So QM is still on somewhat shaky ground despite its seeming ability to be very accurate in certain situations.

36 posted on 10/30/2021 8:25:29 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Somewhere there is probably a list, or better yet diagram, that shows all of the ways that particles can change into other particles.
***I saw an interaction chart like that once, when Antony Garrett’s e8 theory was being discussed. But I can’t find it now...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Exceptionally_Simple_Theory_of_Everything


37 posted on 10/30/2021 10:53:55 AM PDT by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

These pesky infinities have to be “normalized” out of the equations in order for them to be useful.

***Does that mean our universe is a deforming mathematical lie group?
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1506.08073.pdf


38 posted on 10/30/2021 1:18:20 PM PDT by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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