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'Lawless city?' Worry after Portland police don't stop chaos
ABC 'News' ^ | 10/16/21 | Sara Cline

Posted on 10/17/2021 10:14:49 AM PDT by Libloather

PORTLAND, Ore. -- A crowd of 100 people wreaked havoc in downtown Portland, Oregon, this week - smashing storefront windows, lighting dumpsters on fire and causing at least $500,000 in damage - but police officers didn't stop them.

Portland Police Bureau officials say that's because of legislation passed by Oregon lawmakers this year, which restricts the tools they can use to confront people vandalizing buildings and causing mayhem.

“The reason that we did not intervene goes back to what we talked about last month with House Bill 2928 and the restrictions placed on us in a crowd control environment,” KOIN reports that Portland Police Lt. Jake Jensen said in a neighborhood meeting Thursday.

Residents frustrated by the latest round of destructive demonstrations Tuesday questioned whether that meant anything goes now in Portland.

“Does that mean we are now like a lawless city?” Linda Witt asked during the meeting with police. Jensen replied saying people can still face consequences later.

The legislation in question is House Bill 2928, which prohibits the use of things like pepper spray and rubber bullets for crowd control. However there is an exception – when the circumstances constitute a riot and if the officer using the chemical incapacitant reasonably believes its use is necessary to stop and prevent more destructive behavior.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Local News; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: anarchotyranny; dystopia; insurrection; lawless; oregon; police; portland
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Mayor Ted Wheeler’s office didn’t respond to multiple requests for comment on Friday. Neither did lawmakers of the Democratic legislative caucuses of the Legislature, which is controlled by the Democratic Party.

Criminals helping criminals. Not much of a down side.

1 posted on 10/17/2021 10:14:49 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

I hope the insurance costs in Portland go through the roof to cover the damages (current and future). What I don’t want to see is MY (non-Portland) premiums to go up to cover the results of Portland’s imbecility.


2 posted on 10/17/2021 10:19:37 AM PDT by House Atreides
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"people can still face consequences later."

But since we're all wearing Jesse James masks now, no one can tell who anyone is. So the police can't prevent crime, they can't do anything after the crime, and you're not allowed to defend yourself or your property either.
3 posted on 10/17/2021 10:25:26 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Libloather

Portland Police Lt. Jake Jensen replied saying people can still face consequences later.

As in, people who dare interfere with rioters WILL face consequences!


4 posted on 10/17/2021 10:26:06 AM PDT by null and void (LGBTQ = Let's Get Biden To Quit, FORKN'A = First Uttery Cancel Kamala, Nancy Axed)
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To: Libloather

What? IF it constitutes a riot?

Isn’t that what a mob of hundreds vandalizing things is?

We are living in Absurdistan.


5 posted on 10/17/2021 10:26:12 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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“Does that mean we are now like a lawless city?” Linda Witt asked during the meeting with police.

Well, yes, Linda, it does. Did you vote for the people doing it?

Jensen replied saying people can still face consequences later.

But they don't, do they? Which is really what Linda was asking, and the answer is yes, Portland is a lawless city. Next question.

6 posted on 10/17/2021 10:28:12 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Libloather

(“Does that mean we are now like a lawless city?”)

All signs point to “Yes”


7 posted on 10/17/2021 10:28:16 AM PDT by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Bingo.

How convenient that BLM et al were now being “good” BECAUSE they use masks!

Don’t think this insanity over a minor disease didn’t stoke the antiAmerican rioting…never mind sanctioned it!


8 posted on 10/17/2021 10:28:23 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Libloather

I once considered moving to Oregon. Thank God I did not. What a trach place now that it is run by democrats.


9 posted on 10/17/2021 10:28:48 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: Libloather

Oregon Lawmakers = Cheap Easy & Stupid


10 posted on 10/17/2021 10:29:34 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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In 1918, Germany transitioned from a semi-authoritarian empire to the Weimar Republic, a democracy that protected individual rights and limited police power. During the Weimar Republic, police struggled to respond to a rise in crime, political violence, and high unemployment. The Nazis promised to fix these problems, which helped policemen to eventually accept the new Nazi regime in 1933.


11 posted on 10/17/2021 10:31:24 AM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: Libloather

Couldn’t happen to a more deserving place.

Great example of people getting the government (and consequences) they deserve.


12 posted on 10/17/2021 10:34:56 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: House Atreides

Yeah, Portland was one of my favorite cities to visit....50 years ago. My family always went for the weekend on Thanksgiving.

Washington has new laws handcuffing the police from doing much also. Fortunately doesn’t come into play much in my little town in eastern WA.


13 posted on 10/17/2021 10:42:51 AM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: aquila48

How about the 30% who DIDN’T vote for that crap? They deserve it also?


14 posted on 10/17/2021 10:44:11 AM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Bookshelf

The police (the forces of order) will always do what the people that pay them tell them to do.

They are just hired mercenaries who can be good or bad depending on who pays them.

And in our society it’s we the people who elect those who pay them, and the useful idiots that inhabit Portland continue electing officials who pay cops for doing nothing and so they will do nothing.

And from the cops point of view that’s not a bad deal. .


15 posted on 10/17/2021 10:44:43 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Bookshelf

History repeats itself when care is not taken we are seeing a repeat day by day.


16 posted on 10/17/2021 10:47:28 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Bookshelf

In 1918, Germany transitioned from a semi-authoritarian empire to the Weimar Republic, a democracy that protected individual rights and limited police power. During the Weimar Republic, police struggled to respond to a rise in crime, political violence, and high unemployment. The Nazis promised to fix these problems, which helped policemen to eventually accept the new Nazi regime in 1933.


Perfect historical analogy. Throw in the hyperinflation angle (just commented on another thread about that) and the analogy is even more exact.


17 posted on 10/17/2021 10:54:12 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Also “the nazis promised to fix the political violence” - THAT THEY THEMSELVES BROUGHT ABOUT.


18 posted on 10/17/2021 10:56:07 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: SaveFerris

The PTB need only point to ONE law being enforced. Let’s say parking violations - and on this basis, this ONE law, the city is by definion not lawless.


19 posted on 10/17/2021 11:00:43 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“Absurdistan”

Did you coin that? Clever.


20 posted on 10/17/2021 11:07:08 AM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the gov out of medicine, education and forests!)
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