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Posted on 07/13/2021 4:27:43 PM PDT by chuckles

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To: rellic

“Why are you running Cat 5 and hard-wiring the system?”

Toss everything into dropbox and then pick it up from there.


41 posted on 07/13/2021 5:42:55 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (I got the shot. Not because I wanted to. Because I had to, in violation of my civil rights.)
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To: chuckles

Why 100 feet apart? If this is a one-time transfer, why not move one of the computers closer to the other for the transfer? Or, better yet, storage is relatively inexpensive these days. Get yourself a 5- or larger portable terabyte usb3 disc drive for less than $150 and set your files to transfer onto it from one computer while you’re sleeping or doing something else, than transfer them from the drive onto the other one when done.


42 posted on 07/13/2021 5:44:45 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Make America Great. Prosecute Dems who break the law!)
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To: TWohlford
the wire’s speed might be that much, but the hard drives at either end, not to mention antivirus and such, is the bottleneck.

This. This right here. Speed from one HDD to another is impacted by a number of factors, including resources available on the sending and receiving computer to send, receive, ack and write data from one hdd to another.

43 posted on 07/13/2021 5:49:31 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Hodar

Both drives are solid state and capable of Sata 3 speeds. They are both running at Sata 1 which is 1.5 mbs speed.


44 posted on 07/13/2021 6:09:25 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckr

The router is SUPPOSED to be 100mbs switch. I cut out the router by running a Cat 5 to the other computer directly with a X over box. Started copying again and it was locked at about 10mbs. For me that makes trouble in the boxes. The HD’s are both capable of over 100mbs and I can copy files within one computer at 50+Mbs to a second drive. Even if I take drive C from one and put it in computer 2, my network speeds will still suck when I go back to normal. Putting the drive in the other computer will speed up this file copy job, but the network will remain snail slow.


45 posted on 07/13/2021 6:20:13 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckr
..."USB terabyte storage"...

I have USB 2,0 speeds on both boxes. That's slower than what I'm doing now as I would have to copy twice to get the job done.

46 posted on 07/13/2021 6:25:16 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

I’m going to have to go to Pimsleur to learn all the new language in this thread.


47 posted on 07/13/2021 6:44:06 PM PDT by sauropod (The smartphone is the retina of the mind's eye.)
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To: chuckles

If you have a multiport switch or hub, try moving the patch cables to a different port as well. I’ve seen that, too, in addition to bad cables.

One example: Had a client complaining about slow data transfer rates (long story, short on details, not relevant).

Short story: Their IT had installed a single patch cable from the VOIP system for their phones and the hardware adjusted their speeds to 10mbps. Apparently the VOIP cables are crap for anything but phones and have the tiniest print rather than some obvious label identifying them as such.

I should’ve billed the hell out of ‘em. PITA to figure that one out. Keep an open mind or, to keep your sanity, go peer to peer with a long cable and just do the transfer (iirc your prior comment). They also make handy cable kits to connect a hard drive to your other computer. Cable kit is only $30 or so and is universal (IDE or SATA).

But if you need the bandwidth you’ll have to solve the problem.


48 posted on 07/13/2021 6:56:36 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869
Thank you for your incite as you sound like you have some experience here. I've been building my own computers since the 286 in 1984 and have worked on them for others since then also. I don't have any certifications but am not a dummy either. I'm still interested in why this network is so slow, but I'm down now to copying about another 130 gigs and am almost finished. This has been going on since about 4:30 this after noon. I figured it would take about 2-3 hrs at most. Since it only goes as fast as your slowest link, I'm going to have to do some more studying. I've changed cables and one leg was wireless for awhile until I went Ethernet. Nothing changed anything. No matter what I did it went 9-10mbs, never higher so something is limiting all the new hardware to something old.

I have a newer I7 machine with 24 gigs of memory that is reasonably fast on it's own, but the motherboard Ethernet still runs at 10mbs. I will be upgrading a Pci-E slot with a USB 3.0 soon that would have given me another route to go this time, but still, I dream of transferring a 2 gig movie from the bedroom to the living room in a couple of minutes instead of 10 minutes and leave the USB drives in the drawer. I've even thought about building a NAS but why do that if files run at 10MBS or slower?

49 posted on 07/13/2021 7:46:38 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

Make sure the speeds and data you are comparing are both megaBITS vs, megaBYTES. Some thing report them differently and it’s easy to confuse them. There are 8 bits in a Byte, so 50 megabytes is 400 megabits.


50 posted on 07/13/2021 7:48:11 PM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: chuckles

“I’m not using wire yet but that will be my last choice.”

you should be using wire for transfers like that ... period ... plug both computers directly into the router and make sure that both computers prefer wire over wifi, or even better temporarily disable wifi on both ...

also, slow hard drives and ANY active antivirus will slow things down, including Windows Defender ... if you happen to have more than one AV running (and that includes WinDef, you’ll be screwed anyway, so temporarily disable all AVs during the transfer)


51 posted on 07/13/2021 8:03:34 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: chuckles

You’re aware of these tools?

https://www.dslreports.com/tools

When I was in my last house, I made the mistake of believing I’d be there for more than a few more years and wired the whole house for gigabit and put the 24 port switch in a structured wiring cabinet in the hall closet. I did this for like reasons: I wanted a movie server instead of shuffling memory drives.

There’s a chance you might be able to isolate your problem with those tools.

Now I’m confused: I just reread your comment and saw that you wrote the following:

“but the motherboard Ethernet still runs at 10mbs”

You wrote in the OP,

“Both network cards are 100mbs”

What’s the story???


52 posted on 07/13/2021 8:25:25 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: chuckles

Any Windows version;
- Device Manager
- Network Card/Interface
- Properties
Dig into the various driver settings. You should find a setting somewhere that’ll afford opportunity to set from AUTO to 100Mb.
If Windows doesn’t ask to reboot AND you speed does not improve. Reboot both boxes anyway.

Other thoughts;
1) Physical Interface. You’ve indicated that you’re running a CAT 5 cable. Are all the pins terminated? Are the terminations clean? Split pairs? Have you swapped cables just for grins?
2) Traffic. Anything else running on your network? Some device spewing a bunch of packets? Wired or wireless, is something is crushing your router?
3) Common Point. When was you router/switch last updated and restarted?

A 100 foot patch cord would work fine. You need to cross TX and RX (4 and 5 I think). No distance issue inside of 300 - 330 feet.

Good luck.


53 posted on 07/13/2021 8:57:13 PM PDT by LakeEffectLad (Orwell was an optimist....)
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To: logi_cal869

One was on the MB and the other was a card. They both report to be 100mbs capable.


54 posted on 07/13/2021 11:04:45 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: LakeEffectLad
Cards are not on auto but 100mbs and there is no changing it. All pins are terminated on the cat5. I changed cables first. I made a cable to run straight with a X- TX and RX box made for this purpose. Actual distance is about 75 feet pacing it out. Nothing else on the router except moms cell phone but I had her switch to cell tower a few hours. The router hasn't had an update in a couple of years. I think its not supported anymore. I wired around it anyway and got the same result.

Anyway, My file transfer is done @ about 12:30 am. You know I feel like a fool, but just now I thought about our smart TV is on our router, but I was watching Direct TV and not using the apps. I would have cut it off the wifi if I had thought about it. I still think it would have been faster than exactly 10mbs even if an app was running. I'm changing my main computer to a faster one and am transfering 4 HD contents to new faster HD's in the newer computer. Anyway, its done. Thanks for you help.

55 posted on 07/13/2021 11:34:06 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

gbs, not mbs. sata is fast.


56 posted on 07/14/2021 1:56:07 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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To: chuckles

Strange.
At least the job is done.
Until next time, best regards.
LEL


57 posted on 07/14/2021 4:09:35 AM PDT by LakeEffectLad (Orwell was an optimist....)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Suprised that no one has even mentioned cable attenuation. But they’re right, use a portable drive. Why even bother hard-wiring unless this need to be a repetitive use. 100 feet. Are you going out of the building? If so you need to consider lightening suppression.


58 posted on 07/14/2021 6:17:14 AM PDT by .44 Special (Taimid Buacharch)
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To: chuckles

If one card is hard set for 100/full, and the other is set for auto/auto (or 100/auto, or auto/full), it can cause issues as well. both should be set the same.


59 posted on 07/14/2021 9:50:26 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: chuckles

Unless the sending computer is not capable of hosting the receiving drive, the simplest way to do this is to install the receiving drive into the sending computer. Copy the files with the file manager or some other tool and move the receiving drive back to its own computer.

If this is just some geeky fun building cables, have a good time with the routers and Ethernet cable tools.

I’ve recently had to clone some drives and found it to be pretty simple with some of the free software tools available. I think the last one I used was EaseUS. It was a little tricky with the dual boot Linux/Win10 drive but it did the job.


60 posted on 07/15/2021 6:30:54 AM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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