Posted on 06/07/2021 9:09:26 PM PDT by familyop
Early evidence about B.1.617 and a related variant, B.1.618 - which also emerged in India - also suggested that vaccines and other common COVID treatments may not work against these strains...The NYU researchers found that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines both neutralize spike proteins from B.1.617 and B.1.618. While these neutralizing responses are not as strong as they would be against older coronavirus strains, the vaccines still provide much more protection than a prior coronavirus infection would. The results show that the vaccines are 'well within the cushion effect of the capability to protect against infection...
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Sure they do, sometimes, maybe, they think
How much peer reviewed data is there?
None
The key take away should be.
“While these neutralizing responses are not as strong as they would be against older coronavirus strains, the vaccines still provide much more protection than a prior coronavirus infection would.”
Soon the flat earthers will be along poo pooing this will all manor of opinions with zero peer reviewed research to support those opinions. It’s good to see that operation warpspeed has been such a resounding success. The Indian variants are the most concerning this is welcome news for millions and millions of fully vaccinated Americans thank you Donald Trump.
The B.1.617 Indian (AKA delta) variant has been spreading in the U.S. for at least about a month and a half. I’m vaccinated and was in interstate crowds a few times in a major hub recently (no masks) and did catch a sore throat followed by a cough and runny nose. Don’t know what it was, but it wasn’t very bad at all.
I get the second Pfizer shot Thursday from my doctor while my German wife just got the first shot yesterday at the vaccine center. Not bad for a foreigner.
You have to wait 6 weeks for the second shot.
Meanwhile the article just below this one…
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3965931/posts
Starting vaccine testing on ages 5-11, you know, the age group that has no risk of covid at all.
Why Lord, why?
How
The key line of B.S would be.
“While these neutralizing responses are not as strong as they would be against older coronavirus strains, the vaccines still provide much more protection than a prior coronavirus infection would”
The injections supposedly train the immune system to look for one weird little piece of a foreign protein.
A prior infection would train the immune system to look for lots of proteins on this novel virus, most of them which have not mutated.
I see there are conflicting studies, what makes you think this one is right?
Agreed. I don’t see any reason for raiding Mr. Ed’s medicine cabinet for his horse wormer (Ivermectin not effective). ;D
Mr. Ed Theme
https://youtu.be/6GAbc5uQXJo
Since India doesn’t have and of the vaccines in large amounts, they’re stuck with having to use Ivermectin...and they’re getting the usual results that Ivermectin gives - 80% case reduction in one month, and still falling.
Sometimes it pays to be Third World.
I once caught a cold from an Indian co-worker. I got over it. I didn’t need a f-ing vaccine to do it.
How! :)
How can they when they weren’t intended to?
Horse wormer doesn’t prevent transmission and doesn’t drop the RT below one causing the virus to die off. If it is successful the person is already am active vector shedding virus to everyone around them. There is loads of data that shows both Pfizer and Moderna prevent symptomatic and asymptomatic infection 94% of the time. That means a 94% reduction in the RT value vs unvaccinated people as it is impossible for someone to shed virus if they are neither symptomatic nor asymptomatic. For the simpletons Pfizer and Moderna have proven data to state they prevent 94% of people from ever catching corona in the first place. That is the key difference the vaccines will end the chains of transmission something that HQZ nor invermectin can ever do when administered to already symptomatic people who are by definition contagious and shedding virus.
The Fenbendazol horse wormer will probably work.
I think the longer the wait between the two shots the better. Especially if you are not elderly.
I wish the dosages were adjusted for young people.
Also wonder how effective one dose may be as time wears on. I imagine more than we realize?
“Sometimes it pays to be Third World”
Well, we’re headed there at warp speed (no pun intended), so we have many things to look forward to. /sarc
I have been fully vaccinated since early April. I have been in crowds of hundreds shoulder to shoulder with people in their 20s none of them vaccinated at the time. Been to bars and night clubs that you couldn’t walk through without pushing your way through with capacities in the 250 to 1000s. I have shared drinks with friends and some shots with strangers out of the same shot glasses at parties. Been to casinos packed into craps or black jack tables every one of us drinking and smoking in each other’s faces. I’m 100% positive I have been exposed multiple times. I had an antibody titer test done 3 weeks after my second shot my levels were six times what would be expected from someone who recently recovered from covid my doctor was like good you have high immunity and it should last at least 6 months or more. They tested for the N antibody that only a prior infection would have cause the Pfizer does not trigger that antibody mine was negative meaning 100% of my antibody response was from the Pfizer and it was massive. The test was $450 worth every penny to know for sure the Pfizer worked for me.
I was told the first Pfizer shot takes weeks to kick in but the second shot only takes days.
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