At 314 replies, there is a LOT of expertise (and snark) for your dining and dancing pleasure.
Posted on 05/30/2021 6:10:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
At 314 replies, there is a LOT of expertise (and snark) for your dining and dancing pleasure.
Not too bad if the charging stations are there.
Copper studded tires and roadbed smart cables would let electric vehicles travel indefinitely. As the USA electrifies its energy distribution, more power lines need to be constructed. They might as well build them in the diamond lane road beds.
There was some articles the other day about that new Lightning. On a good day it will get about 300 miles on a charge. Yet they boast about how it will tow 10,000 pounds.
But when Ford was asked how many miles a new Lightning might travel towing 10,000 pounds they obviously refused to answer.
A conservative estimate might mean it would tow 75 to 100 miles.
So what. Still cant win the CannonBall Run in an electric car.
Also ask how many people and how much luggage they can handle.
Of course, cars have been too small for decades now, for a truly nice vacation drive.
How about day 2?
I am personally not anti-electric anything.
But I am anti-government subsidized electric with no infrastructure in place to support inferior technology.
I would have no problem purchasing an electric car tomorrow. But not an inferior one because environmental cheese dicks want to force me into purchasing one against my will.
so no battery degradation in this car or did Tesla provide new batteries for this stunt
The real test would be Cannon Ball run.
According to Autolist, 2 of the top 4 reasons people don’t buy electric vehicles have to do with charging the car so I'll explain what my experience has been like to charge my fully electric Tesla Model 3 for the past 3 years + my total charging cost after 75,000 miles and compare it to gas costs.
With my Tesla it’s great because it automatically charges overnight when electricity is at its cheapest (known as "off peak" electricity rate) and when I wake up, my car has enough battery charge to satisfy my daily driving needs. If you drive 50 miles or less during your daily driving you can probably get by with charging on a normal outlet, which on my Long Range Model 3 would regain about 5 miles of range per hour of charge.
However, I drive over 400 miles a week so I needed a 240v NEMA 1450 outlet installed in my garage in order to charge my Tesla Model 3 at a rate of 30 miles per hour which can essentially charge the car from 0-100% in 10 hours.
Unfortunately my breaker box is about the furthest it can possibly be from my garage so I had to hire an electrician to run cable alongside my house, under my yard, and into my garage which cost me $1300 right off the bat before I even got my car but I got a 30% tax credit which made my out of pocket cost $900.
Some is lost along the way due to heat and other factors so the final amount of electricity that makes it into the battery is called "wall to wheels" efficiency and based on TeslaFi (an app used to track Tesla charging stats for owners) it says a 240-volt Tesla Wall Connector can average 94% efficiency.
If we assume 94% wall to wheels efficiency we also have to consider phantom drain which is the electricity lost when an electric vehicle is parked while not plugged in to a charging outlet so for example every day for 8 hours my car is in a parking lot unplugged and it loses some charge over that period.
I average about 2,000 miles per year for traveling on road trips which means 8% of my total miles are when traveling and 92% is from home charging. For home charging, my off-peak electricity rate is $0.07080 per kWh. 92% of the 20,728 kWh has been home charging which means I’ve spent about $1,350 on home charging so far + $54 on Supercharging so after 75,368 miles I’ve spent a total of $1,404 on charging.
To that in perspective, if we consider a popular Tesla competitor from the same year, a 2018 BMW 3 series that averages 28 miles per gallon & also requires premium gasoline (which costs an average of $3.475 a gallon in my county) to drive that BMW the same amount of miles the fuel cost would be about $9,353. That's $8,000 in fuel savings after 3 years.
I plan to keep my Tesla Model 3 for at least 10 years so if I keep this up, after another 7 years the savings could be close to $25,000 which could pay for a solar roof and allow me to charge for free for the rest of time. That's another advantage of an electric vehicle: it can be charged from 100% renewable energy.
0:00 Gas vs Charging
1:59 Home Charging
3:26 Total Electricity Used
4:48 Sponsor (Omaze)
6:05 Travel Charging
8:27 Total Charging Cost
9:40 ConclusionTesla vs Gas: TRUE Charging Cost After 75,000 Miles: Tesla Model 3 total charging cost after 75,000 miles & 3 years | April 14, 2021 | Andy Slye | YouTube
Can’t they tow a generator?
or if it has a hydrogen fuel cell…
Yes with battery pack swaps vs. charging stations.
CyberTruck is rated for 500 mile range and 15,000 lb towing capacity It is backlogged into 2024 or longer
I’ve only driven 1000 miles in a day once. 700-750 miles is more my speed. But can an electric vehicle do that pulling a 6500 lb travel trailer? I seriously doubt it.
ALso, in this perfect Watermelon World, NO ONE will ever forget to put their car on the charger when they get home...
Irrelevant my butt and back can’t.
He says the actual practical range of the car for non-urban driving is about 250 miles, not 310 as claimed.
Total cost of electricity for the trip: $88.72.
Yes.
On a flatbed tow truck.
Or on a hitched flat trailer.
Do I win anything?
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