Posted on 02/07/2021 7:07:51 AM PST by sushiman
… update changed some condition for some app/process/task that is refusing to give up control
My guess too…
There must be some kind of app that could run and keep the comp fro sleeping while recording? Kind of a pain to keep having to change power settings.
One of the main reasons I still run Win 7 and will prolly never update. Starting with Win 10 M$FT began an aggressive push towards SAS (software as a service). Office 365 where you pay forever for the software is an example of this. SAS is coming for Win 10. Just a matter of time.
Wondering if it a “phone home” app keeping it awake. Something that ms won’t allow to be shut off, or will keep reenacting it with updates?
Sledgehammer. It’s guaranteed to sleep after that.
I haven’t used it for awhile, but there is aprogram called RollbackRX, it allows you to roll back the computer while booting if a nothing ever happens like a virus, or messed up registry, or whatever. It completely rolls back everything, unlike windows b u it in system restore, which will leave things around, or not bet rid of some things like a virus.
If you are running I windows 7 still, you might want to check it out. It takes a comlete snapshot of everything, and wi.l restore it to that state if a problem arises. It’s kinda like taking a comlete system backup or snapshot with something like macriu reflect, or ghost or whatever, but way way faster.
It saved my bacon many times. I did a lot of software testing,a d every now and again a program would really fubar things, and instead of spending hours trying to figure it all out, I siml,simply, did a rollback and a few minutes later was up and running like new again.
If I w e re using windows 7 for internet, I would definitely use rollback rx, or run windows in a sandbox of some kind, just incase.
Yep, I still run Win 7, as well.
I don't think it actually is a problem any more with Audials... the truth is that I am a creature of habit. I had some a few problems years ago recording and encoding video and I just got in the habit of putting the computers to sleep manually. Does anyone else remember the challenges involved when transferring video to a computer from a camcorder through firewire and then re-encoding?
I have my laptops set up to sleep or shut down automatically only when they are running on batteries in case I forget and put them in their cases still running.
The short answer is windows 10 sucks. I have family member who suddenly started having the same problem you are having. The settings are correct, but ignored. Other people have problems with windows login no obeying settings and doing whatever the heck it wants. It does not matter to Microsoft if windows 10 obeys or not. It never has.
Had the same issue. Turned out to be part of an update that was “stuck”. I resolved that. Now, instead of going to sleep after being idle for 20min, it shuts off. Have been trying to resolve that for days with no luck.
Check out 0patch. Inexpensive, works well.
The first thing to try is to reboot the machine and see if that fixes the problem.
Yep I’m a stature of habit too, and hate hate hate when change happens, and it messes up what was otherwise a lerfect.y working system or routine. Don’t know where they get some of their designers, who appear to sit around and thin, “ok, how can we ma,e peoples lives alittle more difficult” lol
Anyways, your laptop pow e r plan looks good, I didn’t realize it had an option to sleep when on batteries only. Thanks for the tip. I probably saw it 100 times, but was looking for something else so it didn’t register lol 😆I’m not too observant sometimes
Wow, cool! Looks lie,they stepped up and take over where Microsoft leaves off for keeping windows 7 secure. Great find!
Did you get an answer or an informative link for an answer?
“It is an all in one desktop . Before the Windows update after 25 minutes the computer would go into sleep mode . The screen will turn off after 10 minutes of non-use now but the computer won’t . Set for 25 minutes .”
You just need to reestablish the setting.
Control Panel /
Power Options /
“Change when computer sleeps”
HangnJudge’s link has good advice on making sure your video driver is up to date/ not corrupted. There’s also a suggestion to update BIOS, which you can do via your hardware mfg’s updater (my HP has “HP Support Assistant” that can check on BIOS).
Yes, which is why I think looking at the sleep=hibernate state and their settings is like looking at a result and not a cause. I don’t think the core sleep/hibernate functions are failing in any general sense. I think there are core conditions even they must acknowledge and give higher authority to, and some such condition is refusing to give up control to sleep/hibernate just because the sleep/hibernate settings suggest everything should allow sleep/hibernate to begin and remain in place as long as they should.
If I knew how to set up a background app to keep making snapshots of all processes in a task-manager screen, including the many parameters they can show for the processes, I would recommend using that as a tool to try to identify what, each time, is running (& using memory and making I/Os) at each stage from the appointed onset of sleep/hibernate until the system “reawakened”.
But alas, I can only imagine such a tool but cannot create it.
It would require making a .bat file that would:
(a) the entire batch procedure would run a loop until it was stopped by either some setting in the procedure or by rebooting/restarting the system
(b) it would start by setting a value based on obtaining the time and another value to be wait time value representing either minutes or seconds you want the system to wait between task list results.
(c) it would use the command line prompt: c\>tasklist
(d) it could use any/any combination of the additional parameters to show various conditions for each entry in the task list:
/C (Priority) /O(rder by PID)
/D (show modules) /P(ause)
/H (threads) /T(ime)
/I(ntegrity) /U(ser names)
/L (Startup command) /U”owner”
/M(emory) /X (hex)
/N (class names) /Z (parent PIDs)
(d) the command noted in (c) would have the additional command setting of something like >>c:\log\test_%date:~10%%date:~4,2%%date:~7,2%-%time:~0,2%%time:~3,2%%time:~6,2%.log 2>&1
to create a logfile for each tasklist result with a unique time stamp in the name of each log file
(e) then a check of the system time will have to check how much greater is the system time than the system ti time value set in (b) and is the difference equal to or greater than the wait time you told (b) to set.
(f) then if wait time value has not been reached, the batch instruction would use goto, to go back to (e), else
the batch instruction would use goto to back to (b).
The entire .bat process would keep making tiny little log files of the running list of processes in tasklist until you stopped the batch file by rebooting/restarting the system.
Then the log files could be checked.
However, couple of task parameters I thought would be useful are not available in the parameters you can add to the tasklist command, and they would be disk usage (was anything writing to disk) and cache-memory page I/Os (activity writing & reading from cache-memory). Changes in those things could help determine what was the most “in use” activity(ies) when “sleep” or “hibernate” settings failed to achieve their set parameters. Somewhere in that might be an activity that the sleep or hibernate function should have been able to turn-off/set to sleep.
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