Posted on 12/15/2020 9:13:59 AM PST by blueunicorn6
I watched a documentary about a pack of Wild Dogs in Africa when I was younger. It was fascinating.
The pack was run by a head male (Alpha Male) and a head female (Alpha Female). There were several other dogs in the pack.
One of the females gave birth to a litter of puppies. She was not the Alpha Female. The Alpha Female went over to the den where the puppies were, and killed each and every puppy.
This killing was not done in self defense. The puppies could barely move. The killing was not done as a merciful act to save the puppies from slowly starving to death or to ensure that the rest of the pack had enough food. The puppies were not killed because they were sick. The puppies were not eaten. The adult dogs were not starving.
There was absolutely no logical need for the Alpha Female to kill those puppies.
So there must have been an illogical need.
There was.
Fear.
The Alpha Female was afraid of those blind, whimpering puppies.
The puppies couldn’t hurt her. They could barely move. They weren’t drawing in big predators.
Yet, the Alpha Female killed those puppies. In front of their mother. I think the Alpha Male was the father, and he did nothing to stop the killings.
The Alpha Female didn’t kill those puppies because she was currently afraid of them. She was afraid of those puppies in the future. Yes. Inherent or learned, this dog understood time.
Wouldn’t the sensible behavior for the pack be to protect and nurture the puppies? More dogs means more hunters and guards and defenders. The environment these dogs lived in was deadly. They weren’t big animals. Wouldn’t it make sense for this pack to want more puppies?
Yes, it would.
But the Alpha Female was afraid of those puppies. Was this fear merely in her genetics? I don’t know. I’m not sure anyone knows. To my young eyes, it looked like murder. My experience with dogs had shown me that they could be fearful and brave.
I see this same fear in the actions of the leaders of the Democrat Party. Our country is actually in pretty good shape. No rampant starvation. No bombers bombing our cities. But the Democrat leaders are afraid of us.
Us.....the people.....the deplorables....the dog faced pony Soldiers.
We aren’t hurting them. We are just living our lives. We aren’t threatening their children. We aren’t stealing their food to leave them starving.
But these Democrat leaders fear us and kill us. They kill us in our mother’s womb. They kill us in retirement homes. They kill us in riots.
Because they are afraid of us.
They are afraid of the future.
They can’t see the future. They have no idea of what the future holds.
But they’re afraid of it.
What if they aren’t rich? What if their children aren’t rich? What if things spiral out of their control?
Who knows?
The future could just as easily be someplace wonderful.
The darkness and fear and envy in the Democrat politicians doesn’t mean that everyone thinks or behaves like them. It could be that all the Democrat politicians are doing is ensuring a bleak future for themselves and their children.
Oh.....and what about those Wild Dogs Of Africa where they murder their young out of fear?
Nearly extinct.
Good people have to save them.
The actions of their Wild Dog leaders are wiping them out.
It’s not an irrational action for those dogs to kill the young. They are doing it to ensure that their DNA, and not some other dog’s DNA, is perpetuated to the next generation. A lion who takes over a pride will do the same thing to the children of the previous “alpha” lion.
If all the dogs partnered up and had their own litters, it wouldn’t matter, but in a pack breeding is limited based on rank. It might not be the best system, but it is a rational system.
Yes, and it’s worked out so well that they are nearly extinct.
That’s a non sequitur. Many animals use the exact same breeding strategy and are nowhere close to being extinct. So this particular breeding strategy is not some “common denominator” that makes a species less competitive and on the road to extinction.
Perhaps in some specific circumstances, it’s a bad strategy, but since it has been used effectively by so many species, it seems to be a successful strategy more often than not.
Nature doesn’t judge. Only the alphas are allowed to breed. There is a very good reason for that but you would have to brush the snowflakes out of your eyes to see it.
If you won’t accept reality, you are beyond help.
Make up as many excuses as you want.
The reality is that the behaviors of the pack leaders has nearly wiped them out.
Reality is hard for people like you.
The reality is that the behaviors of the leaders of the pack have nearly wiped out the species.
That is not why they are nearly extinct.
Also, the alpha pairs are completely monogamous and the breeding age females leave the pack in search of other unrelated males when they come of breeding age.
There is *never* “another female with pups” in the pack.
The entire pack tends to the alpha pups diligently as they are the top priority even above the alpha pair.
This is why they’re nearly extinct.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2016/12/african-wild-dogs-snares-poaching/
“The reality is that the behaviors of the pack leaders has nearly wiped them out.”
If that is the “reality”, then explain why all the other species that exhibit the exact same behaviors are not going extinct.
If you can’t come up with an explanation for that, then it’s obvious that there is a flaw in your interpretation.
I get the point he’s trying to prove but that is *not* the social structure of any of the types of African Wild Dogs.
It’s just not.
No, it has not.
Please see the article I posted.
Unfortunately the psycho baby murdering Chinese Agents we call demonRATs are killing themselves off fast enough.
Link in post #8.
Bush meat, habitat loss, etc.
The other dogs will die trying to free their pack mates from snares.
Fairly altruistic, for an animal.
The recent studies show that the larger predators are picking them off.
More puppies would mean more survivors.
More puppies mean more sentries and defenders and hunters.
The reality is what it is.
It’s always fun to interact with the Free Republic obdurate nitpickers.
What is the point of the story?
Where is this story posted?
Is it really that hard for you to understand?
Go post on National Geographic.
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*sigh*
But since ONLY the alpha pair breeds, the number of pups per pack available at any given time remains fixed.
They have a complex and immutable social construct that they can’t just “change” based on statistics that they can’t even understand.
That reality is what it is
It’s not “nitpicking” to offer correct facts about a wild canid’s social structure and the ongoing issues they face due to bush meat trappers eating them and so forth.
You can have your own truth but you can’t have your own facts.
Is it really that hard for you to understand?
What is the point of the story?
Where is this story posted?
Is this the National Geographic?
What do you think about my point that the Democrat leaders are like the Wild Dogs of Africa?
Does it make you somehow feel smarter to pick nits?
Is that what you consider to be interesting debate on a site dedicated to examining conservative ideas?
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