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Genetic testing suggests horse domestication did not begin in Anatolia
Phys.org ^
| September 17, 2020
| Bob Yirka
Posted on 09/20/2020 10:24:00 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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posted on
09/20/2020 10:24:00 AM PDT
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SunkenCiv
To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
And I thought Richard III had enough problems.
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posted on
09/20/2020 10:24:47 AM PDT
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SunkenCiv
(Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
To: SunkenCiv
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posted on
09/20/2020 10:32:53 AM PDT
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dangus
To: SunkenCiv
That was an interesting 12 minutes. Thank you.
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posted on
09/20/2020 10:52:35 AM PDT
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Don W
(When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
To: SunkenCiv
Another great history post from our resident historian. Thanks.
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posted on
09/20/2020 11:01:55 AM PDT
by
Wuli
To: SunkenCiv
Wind Horse People at roche de solutre may have domesticated horses 100,00ya
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posted on
09/20/2020 11:35:59 AM PDT
by
PIF
(They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
To: SunkenCiv
Anatolia never made much sense to me. Steppes of Eurasia is a whole lot more likely.
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posted on
09/20/2020 11:37:13 AM PDT
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Reily
To: SunkenCiv
Everything happens on the steppes of Eurasia.
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posted on
09/20/2020 12:02:10 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("What we can see of God's canvas is laughably small." ~Bp. Barron)
To: Tax-chick
Everything happens on the steppes of Eurasia. Moreso than Mesopotamia I am becoming convinced that the cradle of civilization began a bit North.
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posted on
09/20/2020 12:06:24 PM PDT
by
Sirius Lee
(They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
To: Sirius Lee
You might be right. Modern imaging technology is finding cities or large settlements in unexpected places all the time these days. Just because they haven’t yet found cities older than Sumer on the steppe doesn’t mean they won’t.
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posted on
09/20/2020 12:09:02 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("What we can see of God's canvas is laughably small." ~Bp. Barron)
To: Tax-chick
Gobleke Tepes has now yielded Human skull bones. Neolithic.
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posted on
09/20/2020 12:16:59 PM PDT
by
Sirius Lee
(They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
To: SunkenCiv
"In this new effort, the researchers have found evidence that suggests that horses were actually first domesticated in the Eurasian Steppe and were exported to Anatolia approximately 4,000 years ago, during the Bronze Age." I've always thought horses were domesticated on the Eurasia Steppes.(Of course. done by Blacks)
Never heard any difference.
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09/20/2020 1:35:16 PM PDT
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blam
To: Reily
This is the first time I ever heard of Anatolia as the place where horses were first domesticated. The steppe land north of the Black Sea and Caspian Sea makes more sense, as you note. The Proto-Indo-European speakers almost certainly lived in that region and they seem to be the first people to domesticate the horse--which may be a major reason why they expanded all the way from western Europe to India.
Anatolia has been proposed as the original home of the Proto-Indo-European speakers but that doesn't make much sense and is a minority opinion.
To: blam
(Of course, done by Blacks)Yes, after their successful domestication of zebras, black Africans learned of a related species in Eurasia so came north to offer their expertise to those who wanted to domesticate the horse.
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To: Verginius Rufus
Probably assisted by these folks:
Tocharians BTW, pants were not invented until the horse was domesticated and horseback riding became common.
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09/20/2020 5:45:35 PM PDT
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blam
To: blam
BTW, pants were not invented until the horse was domesticated and horseback riding became common. Mmmm not sure about that. I suppose it depends on what you call "Pants".
There were any number of non-riding societies in North America where they wore leggings.
Having your legs covered while going through brush is a major advantage.
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posted on
09/20/2020 5:51:27 PM PDT
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Why Did We Invent Pants?" These days, pants are our garment of choice. But for years, our ancestors draped themselves in tunics, robes, and gowns, until someone decided they were tired of having the wind up their skirt. So, what prompted the change? When, exactly, did two-legged trousers become a thing? A recent archaeological discovery gives us a clue. Archaeologists Ulrike Beck and Mayke Wagner of the German Archaeological Institute in Berlin excavated two ancient graves in a cemetery in Xinjiang, China and, among the remains, discovered two pairs of well-preserved woolen pants. Radiocarbon dating puts them at between 3000 and 3300 years old, making them the oldest-known pair of trousers ever discovered. This historical time period corresponds with the rise of mobile pastoralism in Central Asianomads began moving their herds across the land, and they did so on horseback. Tunics and robes werent comfortable or conducive to long, bumpy ridesand battlesso these ancient people innovated. They created pants."
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posted on
09/20/2020 6:06:44 PM PDT
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blam
To: SunkenCiv
Makes sense.
The Steppes were far enough away from the “civilized” center of gravity that declared riding horses undignified for royalty, and royalty being the only people of enough means to own and maintain horses.
And the distances to be traveled so great and the “amenities” along those travels so scarce that anything that sped up travel was a serious boon, in the Steppes.
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posted on
09/20/2020 6:18:39 PM PDT
by
Grimmy
(equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
To: Reily
Troy dates back to about 3000 B.C., but apparently the first evidence of any horses there dates to about 1900 B.C. (Troy VI). The Trojans of that period seem to be a new people unrelated to the Trojans of Troy I to V. That doesn't make sense if horses were first domesticated in Anatolia. The Trojans became famous for their skill with horses--the last word of the Iliad in Greek means "tamer of horses" (referring to Hector of Troy). So the story of the Trojan horse seems to be a joke at their expense.
To: Verginius Rufus
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09/20/2020 8:14:32 PM PDT
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Reily
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