Posted on 08/17/2020 8:53:26 AM PDT by BenLurkin
Man, this is soooo frustrating. I just read a couple of articles saying immunity after having it is unlikely. That no one should expect it.
Also- because of different agendas- political and/or financial- there isn’t a reliable way to know whether this or that scientist or study is biased. Except for obvious ones.
yes they are acting deliberately like morons to make it appear that normal behavior we should expect with any virus or bacteria infection is now somehow not to be expected
i really cannot stand the political idiots and appointees acting like we must trust their every word and that pnly they can guide us through this shiite
So it’s kinda like the flu in this regard.
“yes they are acting deliberately like morons to make it appear that normal behavior we should expect with any virus or bacteria infection is now somehow not to be expected”
Exactly.
It’s a magic virus.
Okay what is your scientific side telling you on this issue?
A few things based on the evidence we have so far:
1) On background, there are 7 coronaviruses known to infect humans. Four are amount the over 200 viruses known to cause the common cold. Together, those four cause about 12-20% of colds. We know that immunity to each of them lasts 1-3 years. The other three are SARS-CoV-1 (SARS 2003), MERS-CoV (MERS 2012), and SARS-CoV-2. SARS 2003 and MERS burned out so fast we can’t test immunity, so that’s currently unknown. But of those we know, it’s 1-3 years.
2) The genome for SARS-CoV-2 seems to be fairly stable. There have been no observed substantive mutations. Without mutations affecting the outer protein structure, there should be no issues with the immune system properly recognizing and responding to the pathogen in the future following an initial infection or inoculation with a vaccine.
3) The human immune system readily reacts to SARS-CoV-2, unlike some things like HIV. And SARS-CoV-2 doesn’t attack the immune system directly or cause direct damage to it. Measles, for example, can wipe out ~70% of your memory B-cells, which can erase previous immunity built up to various pathogens and leave you exposed again. SARS-CoV-2 doesn’t seem to do anything like that.
4) There have been no known cases of reinfection with SARS-CoV-2, which - given how widespread it is - we should have seen by now if zero immunity is conferred as a result of infection. There were some initial reports of reinfection, but those turned out to be positive PCR tests triggered by lingering viral proteins; NOT newly active infections.
Based on that available evidence and more, it would appear that we have at least a decent level of immunity after infection and that it lasts at least ~4-6 months. Beyond that is speculation at this point because we don’t have enough data.
But if you put a gun to my head and made me speculate, I would GUESS that based on the slow rate of mutation and observed immune response, we’re looking at a minimum 1-3 year immunity and possibly lifelong to this particular virus. However, SARS2003/MERS2012/COVID-19 tells me we may see a new variety in the next 6-12 years. If that happens, our level of immunity to it will depend on how crossreactive the antibodies are.
You can usually look up the underlying study whose conclusions the media is mangling in their fear factories.
If the study is behind a paywall, email the authors. Most are more than happy to have somebody want to actually read their original words and often times they’ll even answer questions about their work. What you’ll find in most cases is a question is posed (”Is there immunity beyond an initial 3-6 month window?”), the data presented is limited simply because we don’t have 10 years of SARS-CoV-2 data to look at, the conclusions are something like “it’s too early to tell”, and the media then reports “NO IMMUNITY AFTER 3 MONTHS, WORLD COMING TO BITTER END”.
So, like, it acts like ANY OTHER FLU?
*Rolleyes*
What a scam. What a crock! Fauci should be arrested and all of his ill-gotten gains confiscated.
Wow, thank you for your thoughtful and informative post!
A while ago, when people were counting on immunity after going through WuFlu, Fauci’s people were saying immunity lasts only three months, and then you’re a “virgin” again. When that was said, not enough time would have passed for them to be able to make that statement.
We’ll see what they’ll pull out of their asses to counter this “lasting immunity” revelation. Still a lot of time to kill before the election! Better get right on that, guys!
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