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Scientists see signs of lasting immunity to Covid-19, even after mild symptoms
Deccan Herald ^ | 08/17/2020

Posted on 08/17/2020 8:53:26 AM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: BenLurkin

Man, this is soooo frustrating. I just read a couple of articles saying immunity after having it is unlikely. That no one should expect it.

Also- because of different agendas- political and/or financial- there isn’t a reliable way to know whether this or that scientist or study is biased. Except for obvious ones.


21 posted on 08/17/2020 11:08:17 AM PDT by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: ifinnegan

yes they are acting deliberately like morons to make it appear that normal behavior we should expect with any virus or bacteria infection is now somehow not to be expected

i really cannot stand the political idiots and appointees acting like we must trust their every word and that pnly they can guide us through this shiite


22 posted on 08/17/2020 11:18:40 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: BenLurkin

So it’s kinda like the flu in this regard.


23 posted on 08/17/2020 11:20:48 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“yes they are acting deliberately like morons to make it appear that normal behavior we should expect with any virus or bacteria infection is now somehow not to be expected”

Exactly.

It’s a magic virus.


24 posted on 08/17/2020 11:24:19 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Okay what is your scientific side telling you on this issue?


25 posted on 08/17/2020 11:31:27 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Vote Biden and share the Seattle/Portland/New York/Chicago/LA death to America/and you! experience!)
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To: Grampa Dave

A few things based on the evidence we have so far:

1) On background, there are 7 coronaviruses known to infect humans. Four are amount the over 200 viruses known to cause the common cold. Together, those four cause about 12-20% of colds. We know that immunity to each of them lasts 1-3 years. The other three are SARS-CoV-1 (SARS 2003), MERS-CoV (MERS 2012), and SARS-CoV-2. SARS 2003 and MERS burned out so fast we can’t test immunity, so that’s currently unknown. But of those we know, it’s 1-3 years.

2) The genome for SARS-CoV-2 seems to be fairly stable. There have been no observed substantive mutations. Without mutations affecting the outer protein structure, there should be no issues with the immune system properly recognizing and responding to the pathogen in the future following an initial infection or inoculation with a vaccine.

3) The human immune system readily reacts to SARS-CoV-2, unlike some things like HIV. And SARS-CoV-2 doesn’t attack the immune system directly or cause direct damage to it. Measles, for example, can wipe out ~70% of your memory B-cells, which can erase previous immunity built up to various pathogens and leave you exposed again. SARS-CoV-2 doesn’t seem to do anything like that.

4) There have been no known cases of reinfection with SARS-CoV-2, which - given how widespread it is - we should have seen by now if zero immunity is conferred as a result of infection. There were some initial reports of reinfection, but those turned out to be positive PCR tests triggered by lingering viral proteins; NOT newly active infections.

Based on that available evidence and more, it would appear that we have at least a decent level of immunity after infection and that it lasts at least ~4-6 months. Beyond that is speculation at this point because we don’t have enough data.

But if you put a gun to my head and made me speculate, I would GUESS that based on the slow rate of mutation and observed immune response, we’re looking at a minimum 1-3 year immunity and possibly lifelong to this particular virus. However, SARS2003/MERS2012/COVID-19 tells me we may see a new variety in the next 6-12 years. If that happens, our level of immunity to it will depend on how crossreactive the antibodies are.


26 posted on 08/17/2020 11:43:55 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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To: SE Mom

You can usually look up the underlying study whose conclusions the media is mangling in their fear factories.

If the study is behind a paywall, email the authors. Most are more than happy to have somebody want to actually read their original words and often times they’ll even answer questions about their work. What you’ll find in most cases is a question is posed (”Is there immunity beyond an initial 3-6 month window?”), the data presented is limited simply because we don’t have 10 years of SARS-CoV-2 data to look at, the conclusions are something like “it’s too early to tell”, and the media then reports “NO IMMUNITY AFTER 3 MONTHS, WORLD COMING TO BITTER END”.


27 posted on 08/17/2020 11:48:13 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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To: BenLurkin

So, like, it acts like ANY OTHER FLU?

*Rolleyes*

What a scam. What a crock! Fauci should be arrested and all of his ill-gotten gains confiscated.


28 posted on 08/17/2020 12:15:47 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Wow, thank you for your thoughtful and informative post!


29 posted on 08/17/2020 2:48:10 PM PDT by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: Da Coyote

A while ago, when people were counting on immunity after going through WuFlu, Fauci’s people were saying immunity lasts only three months, and then you’re a “virgin” again. When that was said, not enough time would have passed for them to be able to make that statement.

We’ll see what they’ll pull out of their asses to counter this “lasting immunity” revelation. Still a lot of time to kill before the election! Better get right on that, guys!


30 posted on 08/17/2020 3:30:26 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (If 100% of us contracted this Covid Virus only 99.997% would be left to tell our story.)
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