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Lenin statue to be unveiled in west Germany after legal battle [Gelsenkirchen]
TheLocal.de ^ | 20 June 2020 08:22 CEST+02:00

Posted on 06/20/2020 8:29:47 PM PDT by Olog-hai

While a global row rages over the controversial background of historical figures immortalized as statues, on Saturday a divisive new monument to Soviet leader Lenin will be unveiled in Germany.

More than 30 years after the post-World War II communist experiment on German soil ended, the tiny Marxist-Leninist Party of Germany (MLPD) will install Lenin's likeness in the western city of Gelsenkirchen.

The MLPD says it is the first such statue ever to be erected on the territory of the former West Germany, decades after the eastern German Democratic Republic communist state and its deadly Berlin Wall and Stasi secret police collapsed.

“The time for monuments to racists, anti-Semites, fascists, anti-communists and other relics of the past has clearly passed,” said MLPD chair Gabi Fechtner in a statement.

By contrast, “Lenin was an ahead-of-his-time thinker of world-historical importance, an early fighter for freedom and democracy,” she argued. …

(Excerpt) Read more at thelocal.de ...


TOPICS: Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: eussr; gelsenkirchen; germany; lenin
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1 posted on 06/20/2020 8:29:47 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

They’re trying to piss us off


2 posted on 06/20/2020 8:32:40 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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new monument to Soviet leader Lenin will be unveiled in Germany

What’s next a monument to Baphomet, Baal or Moloch?

3 posted on 06/20/2020 8:34:28 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: Olog-hai

Lenin was a fighter for freedom and democracy?

In what universe?


4 posted on 06/20/2020 8:35:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: Olog-hai

Let them set it up. Then stage a protest and tear it down.


5 posted on 06/20/2020 8:35:48 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Olog-hai
This calls for fireworks: A few pounds of thermite wrapped around Lenin's ankles.
6 posted on 06/20/2020 8:41:23 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (In 2016 Obama ended America's 220 year tradition of peaceful transfer of power after an election.)
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To: BenLurkin
Commies always talk up democracy, until they get into power. Then they say stuff like this:
“Revolutionary violence cannot be withheld from use against wavering and irresolute elements among the working masses themselves.”

— February 1918

“Dictatorship is a state of intensified war. … Until the final issue is decided, the state of terrible war will continue. And we say war is war—we do not promise any freedom or any democracy.”

— July 25, 1921

“The law should not abolish terror … it should be substantiated and legalized.”

— May 17, 1922
All quotes from Lenin, which come from George Leggett’s book, The Cheka: Lenin’s Political Police (1981).
7 posted on 06/20/2020 8:41:37 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Typical Herms.


8 posted on 06/20/2020 8:44:11 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: Olog-hai

“The time for monuments to racists, anti-Semites, fascists, anti-communists and other relics of the past has clearly passed,” said MLPD chair Gabi Fechtner in a statement.

By contrast, “Lenin was an ahead-of-his-time thinker of world-historical importance, an early fighter for freedom and democracy,” she argued.

Yes indeed, just ask Peter Fecther, 1944-1961 or Gunter Litfin or Ida Siekmann.


9 posted on 06/20/2020 8:45:32 PM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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A statue of a mass murderer.

Would be a real shame if some German Patriots blew it up.

If there ARE any left, that is.


10 posted on 06/20/2020 8:46:54 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Olog-hai

At least it’s safe from Antifa and BLM mobs.


11 posted on 06/20/2020 8:48:33 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Olog-hai

Bet stasi babe angela is REAL excited. By the way angela, how’s megan doing.


12 posted on 06/20/2020 8:52:50 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Olog-hai

Tear the MFer down


13 posted on 06/20/2020 8:53:51 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (See St George's Rap Sheet . . . TAG PedoJoe with "DEFUND the POLICE")
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To: Olog-hai

Nazi symbols, etc., are illegal in Germany. Why isn’t this? Ideological differences aside, what it the difference between Nazism and Communism? Both were quite dedicated to and efficient in crushing the human spirit and turning countries into charnal houses.


14 posted on 06/20/2020 8:56:16 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

Only differences are “internationalism” versus “nationalism”, and pandering to democracy in communism versus outright admitting that the goal was destruction of democracy in national socialism. Otherwise they are exactly the same.


15 posted on 06/20/2020 8:59:02 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: NFHale

That depends on what it means to be a German patriot. The country has been steeped in socialism since the days of Bismarck after all.


16 posted on 06/20/2020 9:00:08 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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They might as well just put Hitler’s statue back up while they’re at it.


17 posted on 06/20/2020 9:00:20 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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“...depends on what it means to be a German patriot. ...”

At this point, I’d say ANY Kraut that blows up a statue of a communist/socialist is a Patriot.


18 posted on 06/20/2020 9:01:14 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

heard it on two major radio news bulletins on BBC World Service in the last 24 hours. no mention of “far-left”, “controversial” or opposition, though. just straight news reporting as if it was perfectly normal:

21 Jun: BBC: Gelsenkirchen: Controversial Lenin statue erected in German city
PIC: The statue was unveiled next to a poster that reads: ‘Don’t give anti-communism a chance’

A far-left party in Germany has erected a controversial statue of communist leader Vladimir Lenin.
The tiny Marxist-Leninist Party of Germany (MLPD) installed the statue in front of its headquarters in the western city of Gelsenkirchen.
City authorities had attempted to stop the statue being installed and launched an online hashtag saying there was “no place for Lenin”.
But courts blocked their appeals and the unveiling went ahead on Saturday...

In the debate surrounding the Gelsenkirchen statue, which was made in Czechoslovakia, as it was then known, in 1957, both sides drew parallels to the tearing down of monuments linked to slavery which has taken place in anti-racism protests across the world in recent weeks.
VIDEO: Protesters across America toppled statues associated with slavery

“We live in a time in which many countries of the world are reflecting on memorials,” said mayor Frank Baranowski in one of a series of YouTube videos posted by the city council against the statue.
“It’s hard to put up with the fact that a dictator from the 21st Century is being placed on a pedestal and a memorial is being made out of it. Unfortunately the courts have decided otherwise, we must accept that, but not without comment.”
However, MLPD’s chair, Gabi Fechtner, described the communist leader as “an ahead-of-his-time thinker of world-historical importance, an early fighter for freedom and democracy”, according to the AFP news agency.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53123947

video in above doesn’t work for me, but it does below. looks like a BBC celebration.
last week a BBC World Service host seemed concerned, when talking to a Dem guy from some org or another, that there were still confederate statues standing, as if there was still work to do:

VIDEO: 1m20s: 20 Jun: BBC: Protesters topple statues across US
Protesters topple statues in US states
Juneteenth marks the end of slavery in the United States of America and falls on 19 June.
Events to commemorate the day this year saw hundreds of protesters gather in several states to topple statues associated with slavery.
One was as high as 75-feet tall, and another was set on fire.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-53119969/protesters-topple-statues-in-us-states


19 posted on 06/20/2020 9:15:27 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: Olog-hai

Wasn’t Lenin a general of the Confederate Army?


20 posted on 06/20/2020 9:17:29 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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