[BroJoeK]

ek_hornbeck: "As I've said before, the best thing about Trump's Presidency isn't any particular policy or order on his part, but rather how it has helped shift the Overton Window on a lot of issues that used to be taboo for the GOP."

And yet... and yet: in every political rally I've seen Trump announces that Republicans are the party of Lincoln, period, no excuses, no modifications.
Lincoln was the original Republican disrupter president, a back-country rube they called "Ape" Lincoln, he had a very hard time finding both civilian and military leaders who understood his policy was to, ahem... "win, win, win".

Trump is Lincoln for our time, and you GD Democrats just need to get over it.

*** rockrr, what do you think, am I being too hard on these clowns?

[wardaddy]

You got your ass handed to you

Quit crowing , you’ve got nothing to crow about besides being bested by ek

You’re no conservative whatsoever....I smell neocon stench ...always have

Rockrr to his credit however wrongheaded on Dixie is pretty conservative at times and I can’t help but notice

You’re just here jacking off your south hatred while we lose civilization

Hope it was worth it bro..

[GOPJ]

Trump is Lincoln for our time, and you GD Democrats just need to get over it.

Good point.

[rockrr]

What difference does my opinion make in the larger scheme of things? Apparently I am “wrong” about Dixie (whatever that implies) and therefore only a nominal conservative unworthy of participation.

A thing I’ve noticed over the years, people can get so bound up in the “parry and thrust” of the skirmish that they lose sight of the central element - the premise or purpose of their argument. Sometimes in the heat of the moment one loses sight of the prize and sacrifices strategy for tactics.

Personally, I would be reluctant to all another FReeper a democrat (GD or otherwise). We’re all conservatives on this board (to one degree or another) and I don’t have specific evidence of ek_hornbeck’s voting habits but I suspect that votes for Republicans not democrats.

The central element of this thread did not have anything to do with the sectional subset of the United States which is euphemistically referred to as Dixie. The intent of the thread was not to judge anyone, southern or otherwise. It had to do with Donald Trump’s efforts to get reelected. That some chose to get their back up in offense was unfortunate.

It had to do with a FReepers caution that the display of the CBF could have a negative impact on a rally and that, whatever ones sentiments about that artifact, this would not be the time for the Trump campaign to be showing it. I happen to believe that it was a proposition that was more an anthill than a mountain but still worthy of consideration. Others disagreed and that is their prerogative.

The subsequent fracas with all the silly name calling was probably fun for blowing off pent-up steam, but not very useful. As it happens I did not see any CBF flags in attendance at the rally so the point is now moot.

Also central to the point is Trump’s opinion on the destruction of historical monuments. He is unambiguously against it. He has stated no personal interest in a statue of any particular confederate-era statuary, but holds firmly against mob violence. My own opinion has mirrored his all the way. I have stated that, beyond possibly holding and/or stating an opinion, it is none of my business what the residents of another state do with statues. If the residents want to build a statue, move a statue, or tear one down that should be their decision, not mine. And, I would note, my opinion has been crystal clear - I think that tearing down confederate statues as done in recent days amounts to display of domestic terrorism and needs to be arrested - now!

The rise of BLM and Pantifa has added an additional component to the issue. If residents of, say Virginia do not want a statue removed then it is incumbent upon them to rally forces against its removal. I would be pissed if outsiders tried to impose their weight in something that is none of their business. I remain unalterably opposed to anything that BLM and Pantifa do - they have no legitimate voice in anything. In this I stand with southern conservatives - as do most FReepers.

As always, YMMV

[Pelham]

"Trump is Lincoln for our time, and you GD Democrats just need to get over it."

Get back to us when Trump calls up an army and starts killing recalcitrant Americans and burns down their cities.

Right now he's no more vindictive and destructive than James Buchanan. Plus habeus corpus is still intact as well as freedom of the press.

The enemies of Trump all seem to have Communist ties. By contrast the O.G. Commie Karl Marx himself was an early member of the Lincoln fan club. Go figure.

[ek_hornbeck]

Trump is Lincoln for our time

You're forgetting that Trump has also repeatedly expressed his admiration for Andrew Jackson and has promised to press Federal charges against anyone who defaces the statue of Jackson across from the White House (such as your friends and allies who vandalized it). Unlike you, Trump has enough brainpower to recognize that Andrew Jackson has nothing in common with today's welfare state Democrats other than a party name.

Let me guess - you're also one of the people who applauded the Obama administration's proposal to replace Jackson on the $20 with Harriet Tubman, right?