Posted on 06/11/2020 7:44:12 AM PDT by Olog-hai
Republican senators rebelled against Donald Trump late Wednesday by voting to tell the Army to rename bases named after Confederate generals within the next three years.
The Armed Services Committee, whose members include Trump ultra-loyalist Tom Cotton, voted behind closed doors for the move, Roll Call first reported.
The voice vote was on an amendment to the annual Pentagon policy bill — the Defense Authorization Act — which was put forward by Sen. Elizabeth Warren, the Massachusetts Democrat and former presidential candidate.
It came hours after Donald Trump tweeted furiously that he will “not even consider” renaming Forts Bragg, Hood, Lee and others.
The move puts the Republican senators on a collision course with Trump, who White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany suggested would veto any legislation which renamed the bases. …
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Do you have a reference for that?
It's my understanding that is true, but the road to redemption must start somewhere, and this particular implied promise is not yet broken.
That the people who having been informed that military bases would be named after famous confederate generals believed that the designation implied a promise of permanence?
I think it was self evident. Certainly the majority of the public has no knowledge of military bases ever being renamed, so they would think the condition of permanence was the norm.
Missed that one
I wonder if that will include Grant?
Doodle, here I deviate from my normal habit of ignoring the controversy regarding Grant owning slaves, because I thought the quip was simply too good of an opportunity to pass up. :)
I will disagree although I understand your point. Military bases have changed names over the years.
Ft Lee, NJ, is named after Revolutionary War General Charles Lee, who was court-martialed and convicted for his behavior at the Battle of Monmouth. Ft Lee, as Roseqnne Roseannadanna knows, is a city, not a military base.
Light-Horse Harry Lee was not second in command to George Washington. His highest rank in the American Revolution was lieutenant colonel. Charles Lee, before his court-martial was second in command to George Washington.
Ft Lee, Virginia, a military base, is named after Robert E. Lee.
That’s right.
So we’re all the monuments. It was letting the sore loser traitors feel better about themselves.
Nice sounding story but very inaccurate.
You will be very hard pressed to find a Confederate monument erected within 30 years of Reconstruction.
As to the bases, the first ones were named in 1917.
This wasn't about soothing hurt feelings, it was about defying the push for equality.
But adhere to your normal habit of posting nonsense.
“You will be very hard pressed to find a Confederate monument erected within 30 years of Reconstruction.
As to the bases, the first ones were named in 1917.
This wasn’t about soothing hurt feelings, it was about defying the push for equality.”
Good point.
Cotton, Hawley and Blackburn? America is done. Even if Trump wins it’s done. If our elected officials can’t stand up to mob rule then we dont really have much of a government now, do we?
I believe I have heard of it, but it is uncommon and usually for reasons other than politics.
A lot of forts are decommissioned and abandoned over the years, and this is normal, but deliberately naming it something else because the name has fallen out of favor politically? I've never heard of it.
If and when I do it, I am in good company here. :)
McSally and Tillis are in tough re-election battles. But they may lose more voters than they gain by caving to the mob.
I believe that is true, but not for the reasons you think. The southern economy was so badly destroyed and with millions of former slaves who needed jobs in this devastated economy, i've read it took decades for them to recover sufficiently to be able to afford worrying about any monuments.
In the 1860s and 1870s, they were more concerned with not starving or dying from disease or exposure because of all the burnt out farms and housing.
Took awhile for them to recover enough to put up statutes to their heroes.
This was the story I was told by a few freepers on yesterday’s thread.
I know the Robert E Lee statue was built in 1890. That was one of the earliest I know about. SO yes, not near the end of the war.
I don’t know when military bases got confederate names — however, these military leaders were all listed as being united states military, as part of the reconciliation after the war, if I am remembering my history.
Correct. I Was speaking to bases having their names changed - it has been done before.
I believe people will care that almost all elected Federal officials had no issues with the names of these military installations prior to this week. Then suddenly these elected officials had an issue with some of the names.
Sure. And it was just coincidence they served to illustrate the relative status of blacks in the south during Jim Crow.
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