Posted on 03/30/2020 8:12:50 PM PDT by BenLurkin
...used the patterns of carbon-14 captured in the Gordion tree rings to anchor the floating chronology...
[snip] Already the Körte brothers, the early excavators of Gordion, noted that of the royal mounds (kurgans) only three could be dated before the Cimmerian invasion of the early seventh century which put an end to the Phrygian kingdom, and probably the number of royal successions did not exceed this number.9 Little is known of its history besides the fact that ca. -687 Gordion was overrun by the Cimmerians. [/snip]Immanuel Velikovsky | The Dark Age of Greece: The Allies of Priam
But yet we only have recorded history of six thousand years. So what were those neanderthals and ape-like humans doing for all those years? And why did it take so long to learn anything, have an alphabet, a recorded history and learn anything?
And where are all those bodies? Two million years of procreating? Do the math.
Atlantis may have been earlier. It is supposed to be OUTSIDE the Pillars of Hercules (Gibralter). Might be in the Caribbean or off Azores or Canaries.
Human beings today are licking toilet seats to challenge a virus and you ask that?
I did not ask you and don’t be superfluous. That was not what the thread was about.
I don’t care if you asked me, if you don’t want people to reply to you don’t post here.
It is not superfluous. Knowledge is cumulative, built by one idea at a time and repeated by those who had no ideas of their own. Some time in pre-history some guy invented the bow and arrow and a few years later ten thousand guys were running around shooting arrows into everything that moved and thinking they were the smartest mfers to ever live.
This topic isn't about Neandertals, the invention of the alphabet, or two million years of procreating, either. But that's the kind of slippery, ignorant behavior you always embarrass yourself with.
> Years ago (1980s) there was a study of ice cores from Greenland that supposedly showed that ash from the Thera explosion landed on Greenland about 1628 B.C.
New Ice-Core Evidence Challenges the 1620s age for the Santorini (Minoan) Eruption
Journal of Archaeological Science, Volume 25, Issue 3, March 1998, Pages 279-289 ^ | 13 July 1997 | Gregory A. Zielinski, Mark S. Germani
Posted on 7/29/2004, 12:25:45 AM by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1180724/posts
Just like agriculture was invented at least a 1/2 dozen times in various places. Getting back to the article, I think the Thera/Santorini volcano is one of the underrated topics in history. It must have caused massive changes in the ancient world.
I’m sure that many people in disparate places around the globe invented the bow and arrow and the arch and column form of architecture but they were statistically a tiny fraction of the population.
Once those ideas were shown to a given population they may have been refined but the underlying idea was simply copied over and over again.
Almost everything anyone knows today is due to an accumulation of knowledge over tens of centuries. Real “out of the box” breakthrough ideas are still incredibly rare.
“To collaborate this 900 year theory there is geological evidence showing that roughly about 1500 BC. there was a gigantic volcanic eruption which caused half of the island to sink into the sea. Also a lost city has been said to have sunk in the Bay of Naples. At the time several rich and luxurious seaside resorts were located in the area. In the retelling of the story of Atlantis it is easy to see how one of these cities could be associated with it. The story is still being told which enthralls hundreds, as archaeological digs are conducted to unearth evidence of the real Atlantis. Until then the myth remains.”
https://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/a/atlantis.html
We all stand on the shoulders of giants. Its been said and its true.
A book I can highly recommend is “Where good ideas come from”.
It has the idea of the near adjacent. Most great ideas are the next door over if you will. Very few ideas are way out of time and if they are then their is no way to implement them.
He gives the example of a scientist (Pascal?) speculating about computer programming in the 1600’s. Of course he had no way to implement his idea.
He gives the example of a scientist (Pascal?) speculating about computer programming in the 1600’s.
That stirred the thought in me that knowledge is not only cumulative but compounding. Had someone had that thought prior to the invention of writing, or some means of recording thoughts, it would have died completely from that source. But recording it kept it alive for the 300+ years needed to implement it.
When they aren't up on a soapbox, advocating for a New World Order and/or an abolishment of Constitutional Rights, or on their knees, begging for funding, they usually are honest - even brutally honest.
Regards,
You do know about rotting, decomposition, scavengers, carrion-feeders, erosion, etc., right?
Only a tiny, tiny fraction of a percent of all dead organisms are still even only partially physically intact after a hundred years, let alone after a thousand, or a hundred thousand, or a million (barring extraordinary geological circumstances, like those found in the Burgess Shale). And even if they are still intact, it doesn't mean that they have also been found.
Read a book!
Regards,
Oh darn. I came to see the volcano.
While not a scholarly article, you may want to read about this place. Göbekli Tepe was a thriving civilization 10,000 years ago.
We only know of recorded history for about 6-7 thousand years. Archaeology has just started scratching the surface.
One of the harder aspects of archaeology is that much of what has to be dug up, is under newer stuff. Troy had at least 9 layers of cities, one built on top of the other.
Bodies, skin and bone disolve. Fossils only form in certain conditions. You bury someone in a muddy riverbank, even if the river doesn’t erode the grave away, the conditions will eventually destroy things. In a more sandy environment, the bones MIGHT have a chance to fossilize and leave a record.
Thera didn’t have half of the island sink into the sea during the 2nd millennium BC, the caldera is prehistoric. The only eruption recorded from antiquity came about 200 BC, which is after the time of Plato, which means, it wasn’t the inspiration for the Atlantis story, and the 2nd m BC supereruption is a modern invention.
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