Posted on 03/20/2020 2:02:23 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
btt
Please look at the COVID19 data for Italy:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/
On Feb 19, Italy had three confirmed cases. On March 19, there were 41,035 cases, 4,032 deaths, and a health care system that has been totally overwhelmed. Look at the Italian infection/fatality trends in the graphs available at the bottom of the above page. Keep in mind they have taken draconian measures to slow down the spread of this disease.
The number of infections and fatality percentage don't really mean much by themselves. What means more are the number of deaths and the viability of the health care system as this pandemic intensifies. We are on the verge of being another Italy, only worse in terms of numbers. Imagine what the situation will be like in four weeks if we do nothing.
I don't trust the suck-up media at all, and it is prudent to question them. However, the seriousness of COVID-19 is not contrived.
We are fortunate to have Trump as president, as the left will want to retain as much control as they can as this crisis subsides.
“COVID-19 is considerably worse than the seasonal flu.”
By what measure?? You are too easily gaslighted into believing this nonsense.
Wrong comparison. You are citing stats for a whole year for the flu, which amounts to 34 people per day across the US, or 0.0001 deaths on average per day per 10,000 people. Covid-19 just reached detectable levels a week ago here, so for perspective almost 700 people died in the Lombardy region of Italy yesterday, a number that will probably hit 1000 per day by the weekend. This is a region of 10,000,000 people, so one death per 10,000 people per day— that is TEN THOUSAND TIMES the number of deaths per day as the flu. The US is in the early stages of this, if it got that bad across the US that would be 30,000 dead PER DAY; the scary thing is we are so limited by test kits that we are likely growing at a much faster rate than even Italy. Now do you see why this is being treated differently than the flu?
2.8 milion deaths in the US each year. 12,000 is less that nonH1N1 Flu and Pneumonia. It is far less than car crashes, than many individual types of cancer, less than Heart disease and diabetes, and of course, less than alcohol, tobacco, drugs, sexual promiscuity and sugar.
Hi CodeToad,
Please go to the website to which I pointed you and look at the data. There is much more than Italy there. For example, New York has a total of 8,400 cases, with about 3,000 alone in the last complete 24 hour reporting period. It is the rate of increase that is the concern, as well as the number of individuals who will eventually become seriously ill.
I would like to think otherwise, but we are facing a very serious health crisis. The reaction to it might actually make the situation worse in some ways, considering the financial repercussions, but it would be very difficult to watch so many people die in such a short time period without trying to help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4no04822NQ&feature=youtu.be
Above is a video showing the Covid-19 cases versus the other events since 2000. It graphically shows why Covid-19 is such a concern. Yes - the H1N1 was bad. But the graph shows how early we are in the game compared to H1N1, and are WAY ahead of cases for the same number of days since the start of H1N1.
What do you mean, “just the flu”? There are thousands of flu viri and some are much more dangerous than others.
So COVID19 is just another cold, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H1N1
Flu viruses are well known, vaccines are available, we have several well test anti-virals that work on it (e.g., Tamiflu), so it has limited downside.
Covid-19 is similar to some cold virus, but many colds are caused by other types, like Rhinovirus. Notice there are no cold vaccines. No one has come up with a working coronavirus vaccine yet. At this point there is large and unknown downside.
Thank you.
Here’s the problem with you trying to minimize H1N1: The total set starts out at 60 million people infected. Now multiply that by .01%. What’s that number of deaths?
6,000 dead people. Gee, thanks Obama. Guess the Press gave him a pass, huh?
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