Posted on 03/20/2020 2:02:23 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
During the pandemic, CDC provided estimates of the numbers of 2009 H1N1 cases, hospitalizations and deaths on seven different occasions. Final estimates were published in 2011. These final estimates were that from April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010 approximately 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (8868-18,306) occurred in the United States due to pH1N1.
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Very few people even remember the 2009 Swine Flu pandemic. But today, the Chinese Virus has destroyed trillions of dollars of wealth in the Stock Market, made a mockery of civil liberties, and disrupted western civilization beyond imagination.
Is this the final solution from the Deep State? China preparing for war? God knows what?
Looking for insights.
Just another “insurance policy” to cash in.
Next “insurance policy”? Watch your back...and front...and sides...and overhead ...and underground. Chuck 666 ways to Sunday said so.
Thank you, Chief...tossed off the ship of state into the ocean swamp with no life jacket and no help in sight.
But the death rate is more important.
If those numbers are right, that flu killed just a tiny %. We’re talking .01% or so.
This thing is currently at about 1% for US. WA throws off our rate a lot, but basically not much more than 2%.
Not real impressive rates, I guess, but much higher rate than H1N1 going by those base figures.
i would agree with you but as more and more confirmed cases come to light as more people get tested, that death rate will drop...the hysteria created is nothing more than another attempt to defeat our President but it will fail like all the rest as he’s proving to be more than up to the task...
Stuff like this tells me this is about 90% Deep State/Democrat HOAX. With just a little bit of truth.
I’m not into conspiracies.
And I’m not sure Trump is doing all the right stuff. Nothing terrible, but some things I’m not liking.
So far. I wasn’t scared of this and more scared of locking up everything so we end up in a crash and still having to scramble at the end of this thing to get done what should have been. Hence why I’ve even been going to my mother and getting her out, going to doc appts, etc. These forced closures force me to make a choice between risking the disease, or risking some kind of ruin when finally they lift all their bans.
But yes, the rate should look smaller, esp. if all the undiagnosed cases are estimated in.
Perhaps China and the Left are working together
Don’t give the deep state any ideas lest they start issuing shelter in place orders for the common cold.
and we made it through with toilet paper on the shelves no mass hysteria and without crashing our economy. Go figure
The President has more information than you and I.
I trust the President.
I assume you trust the President.
The media and Left have been hoaxing this country and dogging Trump for years now.
Has the President listened to the media and their out cry even once?
Why would the President destroy the best economy we ever had that he gave to us because the Left and media is riding his a$$??
To believe this is all a hoax to bring down the President, one must also believe the President is in on it to bring down himself.
This is the story of the little boy who rang a bell in the city center. When asked why, he said to keep away the elephants. When told there are no elephants, he said, “See? It works!”
This is the communist using this “crisis” to implement communism, to keep the elephant virus away by ringing the communist bell of handing everything over to the government.
Phase 1 was gaslighting the sheeple into thinking they will die without government intervention.
Phase 2 is control the people and shutdown their businesses.
Phase 3 is government providing payment for business rents and payroll.
Phase 4 is the government simply stating that since the government already pays for everything that the government now owns the businesses.
Communism complete: Total control of the sheeple and a complete takeover of commerce.
The liberal States of Washington, Pennsylvania, California, Colorado, and New Jersey have implemented martial law, selecting which businesses must close and that the people must stay indoors. This isn’t a quarantine; this is martial law. Just because the communists are using the virus as an excuse doesn’t mean it is not martial law. When the government can tell you to stay home, implement curfews, and shut down businesses, it is martial law. Trump is in on this communist takeover. He is encouraging States to go into martial law and shut down businesses and lock everyone into their homes.
To get the people’s cooperation, the government is buying their cooperation. Each adult gets $1,000; $2,000 per couple but only if they make under $150k. Great, huh? Get taxed to give other people free money. Colorado is giving people a pass on parking tickets as though people can no longer seem to properly park. There are lots of free sh*t stories being reported.
Just as we were moving manufacturing back to America, the communists are closing those businesses making us rely on foreign imports again. Since Trump has surrounded himself with the communist healthcare workers, he is pushing the narrative and supporting “free” money which means both conservatives and liberals, alike, support him and this effort to take over the country by the communists.
We are past the tipping point. Americans are fully endorsing any and all measures. They actually want more closures. The drama queens are begging to have all their liberties taken away in the name of safety. They are begging for their businesses to close, thinking somehow Uncle Sugar will hand them money to live on instead of having to work.
For those of us not so stupid as to fall for this communism propaganda, we have the right to take on jobs and visit businesses of our own free will. This is the liberals taking away our right to choose.
The WHO estimates between 250,000 and 500,000 die worldwide from the flu. China had 81,000 infected of a population of 1.4 billion and have now lifted their quarantines and claim to have no new cases. South Korea with 8,600 cases likewise has seen a tremendous drop in new cases.
This virus so far is the typical flu level symptoms and treatment. Nothing to be taken lightly, but nothing to go and shut down the country for either.
Anyone feel stupid yet?
“The President has more information than you and I.”
No, he doesn’t. That’s just you sticking your head in the sand.
Trump is a terrible judge of character. Look at all the nitwits he has hired and allowed to stay on after Obama.
He is trusting his decisions to yet another group of people who are undermining him. He can’t yet again claim he didn’t know and he was betrayed. Hell, if he’s that incompetent at picking leadership then she needs to step down.
No good president implements martial law over a virus. Even Obama didn’t do that.
I have a very good memory of serious events, and I cannot recall this...the media made sure to spike it in comparison to today. The media, who is paying them, influencing them? Surely it’s Soros and the like. Why is that man above ground still???
So I will put you down as a non-Trump supporter and voter.
The President does Not have more information than you or I?
Wow. Clue me in on the special website that gives you briefings please.
Soon, the anger phase of the people here that want to be sooooo right about this being a big nothing but they’ll realize they’re wrong.
Pence is a fool too I suppose.
The Surgeon General is an idiot.
The entire CDC are morons.
The list is huge of people that are dumber than some Outbreak deniers.
But, the deniers, they’re in the know. They have the real facts.
We are governed by fools. That turns out to be OK, because most Americans are fools as well. That is my insight into the matter.
Also, while bad, H1N1, actually is just the flu. It was part of the regular flu vaccine quickly. We still don’t know if a vaccine for a coronavirus is even possible yet, so that adds tremendous uncertainty. H1N1 was bad but known problem. Covid-19 is unknown.
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