Posted on 03/14/2020 6:12:31 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
Wow, that sounds like a really cool course of study
This same university offers online classes routinely anyway, and the cost per credit hour is the same as an in-person class.
This works well for classes such as mathematics, history, writing, and humanities.
It doesn't work at all for lab-based classes such as chemistry. In those cases, special lab hours are set, class sizes are tightly controlled, and the student-to-student contact is minimized in the lab.
You could, but they probably would win citing an “Act Of God” and the fact it wasn’t just their institution that shut down. If they switched to distance-learning and were going business as usual otherwise, that would add to their case.
But if you paid for housing, I think they should refund that as it’s separate from education costs. But that’s just my thinking.
I was assuming in my scenario that there was NO evidence of anyone with coronavirus on campus at the time of the shutdown.
And doing instruction on line is not necessarily feasible in all cases. Plus, it deprives the student of the unique quality of the on-campus experience.
We’ve been doing online classes for over a decade. They are not a new thing.
Most of the respectable colleges seem to be planning on finishing the classes online. But if your are talking about a full shutdown, no, the refund should be full.
There should be a proportionate refund. Kind of like paying in advance for an air flight which is cancelled because of the risk and they would refund your prepayment.If you don’t provide the service, no matter what the reason, you don’t get to keep the prepayment
“...arbitrarily shutting their doors in the past week or so, purportedly as a countermeasure to the coronavirus “pandemic.”
We have many colleges up here that have reacted to the shut down demand by our governor. In some states, this has become the practice...shutting down large assemblies. And it effects the whole country.
The problem goes a lot further than just the colleges. A perfect example is our recreation. Do season ticket holders all over the country for different sports get a refund? Who’s going to pay the stadium or arena reservation. How many people does that effect all the way to the facility ownership to the hot dog venders. Imagine the New York stock exchange or the paying of the border guards. Do you send military, and if so, how do you fund them. And the house isn’t going to suspend the condoms for hookers program to use for that.
We’ve never had a governmental organization take what could be considered martial law in this size, before. It’s going to take years to fix the financial ramifications as no one has the liquid funds to back this move. I hope all you get your refund. But don’t hold your breath, you’ll be past turning blue before it happens. You can’t bleed a turnip. Your money is already spent.
rwood
No, they are acting prudent, my wife is a teacher, one of her co-workers has the virus, they have closed the school for two weeks. Do you feel they should force the school to expose your child to the virus? Here at TCU I understand they are going to do the rest of the semester all on line.
... hmmm
We’re you also planning to sue if they kept the school open and your kid died?
my college aged granddaughter has spring break anyhow. It’s almost 6 weeks- she went to Florida and now she’s home for 1 month.
YES I think the schools should give a refund.
do you really think the kids will be in their homes the entire time? NO, mom will bring them out to the mall, stores, whatever is open.
Not a good argument.
I have tickets for the opening weekend at Keeneland three weeks from now. They announced that they will run the races without spectators. Do you really think they should keep the money I paid for my tickets?
ML/NJ
Life's tough. It's tougher when you're stupid.
It is. The craft center has all top quality machinery and she can get wood at university pricing. For example, cherry for $3.50 a board foot.
Yes
Just picked up kid from airport yesterday. Glad the school notified us before the spring breakers come back from their stupid trips, cruises etc turning the place into a Petri dish of Chinese mad scientist flu
They’ll finish up somehow and they’ll give credit. They’ll do what they get paid to do, including being prudent.
I made this point (about labs and such) myself yesterday in another thread. Laboratory science, professional schools (e.g., conservatory and nursing), internships, and other courses of study involving skills and development of teamwork and professional judgment are going to be difficult to move to digital. I’ll give an example. I routinely remark in my MBA classes that few of my students work with their hands. One time, I got a student to respond. He said, yes, he works with his hands. I asked what did he do. He said he was a heart surgeon. So, whether you are an auto mechanic, a mason, a plumber, or a heart surgeon, it seems to me, you can’t just learn it out of a book. I hope that my school gets back to campus after the time out we have called.
I can imagine an English class continuing as an online class with relatively little damage to instruction.
Not sure how you do that with a lab science class.
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